[Gnso-igo-ingo-crp] Synopsis from Prof. Edward Swaine - WG call this week?

Tue Mar 1 15:42:03 UTC 2016

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On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 9:20 AM, Phil Corwin <psc at vlaw-dc.com> wrote:

> Paul:
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> We are in no way trying to suppress discussion, but as of yesterday we had
> not seen anyone indicate that we should hold a call tomorrow other than
> you. Both staff and the Co-Chairs are very busy this week preparing to fly
> to Marrakech (I depart on Thursday).
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> Now George indicates that he can be on a call tomorrow, but is indifferent
> to whether it is held, and thinks it needs minimum participation of 7-8 WG
> members to be worthwhile.
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> *If there are other WG members who believe it would be useful to hold a
> call tomorrow and are available to participate at 1700 UTC, can they please
> indicate that at once?*
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> Best, Philip
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> Philip S. Corwin, Founding Principal
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: George Kirikos [mailto:icann at leap.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2016 10:00 AM
> To: Paul Keating
> Cc: Mary Wong; Phil Corwin; gnso-igo-ingo-crp at icann.org
> Subject: Re: [Gnso-igo-ingo-crp] Synopsis from Prof. Edward Swaine - WG
> call this week?
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> I can make it tomorrow at the usual time, but I'm indifferent as to it
> being tomorrow or next week (we'd probably want at least 7 or 8
> participants if we're going to have it tomorrow).
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> Sincerely,
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> George Kirikos
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> 416-588-0269
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> http://www.leap.com/
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> On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 9:55 AM, Paul Keating <paul at law.es> wrote:
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> > Mary. I saw 3 including me.
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> > Sincerely,
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> > Paul Keating, Esq.
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> > On Mar 1, 2016, at 3:40 PM, Mary Wong <mary.wong at icann.org> wrote:
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> > Dear all, as of now we have only received indication from one working
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> > group member of a wish to have a WG call tomorrow ahead of the Marrakech
> meeting.
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> > If you think it would be preferable to schedule a call tomorrow as
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> > well, please reply as soon as possible so that we can make the
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> > necessary arrangements and let everyone know.
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> > Thanks and cheers
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> > Mary
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> > Sent from my iPhone
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> > On Feb 29, 2016, at 13:04, Mary Wong <mary.wong at icann.org> wrote:
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> > Dear all,
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> > Please find attached the synopsis document from Professor Swaine that
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> > Phil referred to in his email update to our Working Group (below). As
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> > Phil mentioned, his and Petter’s plan is to use this as the basis for
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> > discussion during the WG meeting at ICANN55, which is currently
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> > scheduled for Wednesday
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> > 9 March.
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> > However, should you wish to hold a brief discussion this Wednesday (at
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> > our usual meeting time of 1700 UTC) to provide initial feedback on the
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> > attached synopsis as a preparatory step to the fuller discussion next
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> > week, please reply to this email accordingly. If a sufficient number
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> > of members indicate that they would like to meet this week as well, we
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> > will go ahead and schedule a call accordingly.
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> >
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> > Thanks and cheers
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> > Mary
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> > Mary Wong
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> > Senior Policy Director
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> > Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)
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> > Email: mary.wong at icann.org
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> > Telephone: +1-603-5744889
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> > From: <gnso-igo-ingo-crp-bounces at icann.org> on behalf of Phil Corwin
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> > <psc at vlaw-dc.com>
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> > Date: Saturday, February 20, 2016 at 12:20
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> > To: George Kirikos <icann at leap.com>
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> > Cc: "gnso-igo-ingo-crp at icann.org" <gnso-igo-ingo-crp at icann.org>
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> > Subject: Re: [Gnso-igo-ingo-crp] Any update on Swaine report?
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> > Dear IGO CRP WG Members:
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> > Here is a further update on the situation as regards Prof. Swaine’s
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> > legal research.
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> > Petter and I, along with Mary and Steve, engaged in a one hour call
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> > yesterday with Prof. Swaine in which we discussed our questions and
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> > comments regarding the current uncompleted draft report, as well as
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> > the needs of the WG in preparation for Marrakech.
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> > Prof. Swaine is not comfortable with having an incomplete document
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> > bearing his name in wider circulation, and we fully appreciate  that
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> > viewpoint. In addition, due to his academic responsibilities for the
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> > remainder of this month, he does not believe he will be able to
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> > complete a final draft prior to a potential 3/2 WG call or our F2F
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> > meeting in Marrakech (which is currently scheduled to take place from
> 9-10:15 am on Wednesday, March 9).
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> > However, he did commit to provide our WG with a synopsis of his
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> > research to date in the next week to ten days, which will provide us a
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> > focus for an anticipated WG planning call on 3/2. The same document
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> > can be used to catalyze discussion in Marrakech – and we plan to make
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> > sure that GAC and IGO attendees are made aware that they are welcome
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> > to participate in our 3/9 session. We will then provide Prof. Swaine
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> > with feedback from those two sessions to help guide him in his
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> > completion of the report, which we now anticipate receiving in final
> form later in March.
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> > While we had all hoped to have a final report available prior to our
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> > Marrakech meeting, the agreed upon approach seems like the second best
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> > option and will at least provide us with a basis for discussion over
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> > the next few weeks.
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> > Please let us know if you have questions or comments.
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> > Best to all,
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> > Philip
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> > Philip S. Corwin, Founding Principal
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> > Virtualaw LLC
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> > 1155 F Street, NW
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> > Suite 1050
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> > Washington, DC 20004
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> > 202-559-8597/Direct
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> > 202-559-8750/Fax
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> > 202-255-6172/cell
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> > Twitter: @VlawDC
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> > "Luck is the residue of design" -- Branch Rickey
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> > From: Phil Corwin
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> > Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 10:13 AM
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> > To: 'George Kirikos'
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> > Cc: gnso-igo-ingo-crp at icann.org
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> > Subject: RE: [Gnso-igo-ingo-crp] Any update on Swaine report?
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> > George:
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> > Thanks for your inquiry.
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> > Here's the state of play--
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> > ·         Last week we received a draft from Prof. Swaine. The draft was
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> > incomplete in that it did not yet contain conclusions. It is quite
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> > comprehensive on the interface of sovereign immunity and IGOs and
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> > demonstrates that this area is not fully developed or uniform, that a
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> > great deal of discretion is left to individual nations to determine
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> > the scope of recognized immunity, and that some considerations argue
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> > for waiver in the UDRP context as being acceptable, while others may
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> > lead to a contrary conclusion.
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> > ·         Due to travel schedules, the first time that Petter and I had a
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> > chance to discuss the draft with ICANN staff was yesterday. We are
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> > seeking to schedule a call with Prof. Swaine later this week if at all
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> > possible to raise various questions and issues as well as to determine
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> > what his preliminary conclusions are..
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> > ·         Our hope is to get a more complete draft distributed to all WG
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> > members as soon as possible, and certainly prior to the Marrakech
> meeting.
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> > Once we speak with Prof. Swaine we will schedule a WG call for either
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> > February 24 or March 2 (I depart for Marrakech on March 3) to prepare
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> > for our Marrakech meeting.
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> > ·         At our meeting in Marrakech, we intend to seek comments on the
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> > draft from all WG members, as well as from IGOs and GAC members.
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> > (Staff-do we as yet have a time and date for our WG meeting?)
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> > Following Marrakech we intend to move forward expeditiously on our
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> > work using the report as a basis for determining our course.
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> > Let me know if you have any additional questions at this time.
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> > Best regards, Philip
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> > Philip S. Corwin, Founding Principal
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> >
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> > Virtualaw LLC
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> > 1155 F Street, NW
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> > Suite 1050
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> > Washington, DC 20004
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> > 202-559-8597/Direct
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> > 202-255-6172/cell
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> > Twitter: @VlawDC
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> > "Luck is the residue of design" -- Branch Rickey
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> > -----Original Message-----
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> > From: George Kirikos [mailto:icann at leap.com <icann at leap.com>]
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> > Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2016 4:33 PM
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> > To: Phil Corwin
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> > Cc: gnso-igo-ingo-crp at icann.org
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> > Subject: Re: [Gnso-igo-ingo-crp] Any update on Swaine report?
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> >
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> > I just wanted to followup and see how things are progressing. If we
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> > don't get the draft Swaine report soon, then that means we're looking
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> > at sometime in March for our next teleconference? (i.e. there's no
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> > meeting tomorrow, and it wouldn't make sense to have a meeting next
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> > Wednesday unless the report was provided before the weekend, so folks
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> > can digest it and have informed comments/discussions).
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> > Sincerely,
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> >
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> > George Kirikos
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> > 416-588-0269
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> > http://www.leap.com/
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> > On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 6:20 PM, Phil Corwin <psc at vlaw-dc.com> wrote:
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> >> Happy New Year, George.
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> >>
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> >> We have checked with Professor Swaine and are expecting a draft
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> >> document very soon, possibly later this week. As soon as we receive
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> >> it we will be back in touch with the WG.
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> >>
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> >> Best, Philip
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> >>
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> >> Philip S. Corwin, Founding Principal
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> >
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> >> Virtualaw LLC
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> >
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> >> 1155 F Street, NW
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> >
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> >> Suite 1050
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> >
>
> >> Washington, DC 20004
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> >
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> >> 202-559-8597/Direct
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> >
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> >> 202-559-8750/Fax
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> >
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> >> 202-255-6172/cell
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> >
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> >>
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> >
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> >> Twitter: @VlawDC
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> >
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> >>
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> >
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> >> "Luck is the residue of design" -- Branch Rickey
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> >
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> >>
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> >> -----Original Message-----
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> >> From: gnso-igo-ingo-crp-bounces at icann.org
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> >
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> >> [mailto:gnso-igo-ingo-crp-bounces at icann.org
> <gnso-igo-ingo-crp-bounces at icann.org>] On Behalf Of George
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> >
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> >> Kirikos
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> >> Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 6:16 PM
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> >> To: gnso-igo-ingo-crp at icann.org
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> >
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> >> Subject: [Gnso-igo-ingo-crp] Any update on Swaine report?
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> >> Hi folks,
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> >> Happy New Year.
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> >> It's been a while, so I just wanted to see if we have any
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> >> news/updates regarding the Swaine report?
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> >> Sincerely,
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> >> George Kirikos
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> >> 416-588-0269
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> >> http://www.leap.com/
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