[Gnso-igo-ingo-crp] Synopsis from Prof. Edward Swaine - WG call this week?
Paul@law.es ZIMBRA
paul at law.es
Tue Mar 1 17:47:39 UTC 2016
Phil,
Up to you. I had seen 3 but that is not enough. Perhaps a refer to the group again? It has been awhile since last held a call so they may not be looking.
Paul Keating
> On 01 Mar 2016, at 4:20 PM, Phil Corwin <psc at vlaw-dc.com> wrote:
>
> Paul:
>
> We are in no way trying to suppress discussion, but as of yesterday we had not seen anyone indicate that we should hold a call tomorrow other than you. Both staff and the Co-Chairs are very busy this week preparing to fly to Marrakech (I depart on Thursday).
>
> Now George indicates that he can be on a call tomorrow, but is indifferent to whether it is held, and thinks it needs minimum participation of 7-8 WG members to be worthwhile.
>
> If there are other WG members who believe it would be useful to hold a call tomorrow and are available to participate at 1700 UTC, can they please indicate that at once?
>
> Best, Philip
>
> Philip S. Corwin, Founding Principal
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> "Luck is the residue of design" -- Branch Rickey
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: George Kirikos [mailto:icann at leap.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2016 10:00 AM
> To: Paul Keating
> Cc: Mary Wong; Phil Corwin; gnso-igo-ingo-crp at icann.org
> Subject: Re: [Gnso-igo-ingo-crp] Synopsis from Prof. Edward Swaine - WG call this week?
>
> I can make it tomorrow at the usual time, but I'm indifferent as to it being tomorrow or next week (we'd probably want at least 7 or 8 participants if we're going to have it tomorrow).
>
> Sincerely,
>
> George Kirikos
> 416-588-0269
> http://www.leap.com/
>
> On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 9:55 AM, Paul Keating <paul at law.es> wrote:
> > Mary. I saw 3 including me.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > Paul Keating, Esq.
> >
> > On Mar 1, 2016, at 3:40 PM, Mary Wong <mary.wong at icann.org> wrote:
> >
> > Dear all, as of now we have only received indication from one working
> > group member of a wish to have a WG call tomorrow ahead of the Marrakech meeting.
> > If you think it would be preferable to schedule a call tomorrow as
> > well, please reply as soon as possible so that we can make the
> > necessary arrangements and let everyone know.
> >
> > Thanks and cheers
> > Mary
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > On Feb 29, 2016, at 13:04, Mary Wong <mary.wong at icann.org> wrote:
> >
> > Dear all,
> >
> > Please find attached the synopsis document from Professor Swaine that
> > Phil referred to in his email update to our Working Group (below). As
> > Phil mentioned, his and Petter’s plan is to use this as the basis for
> > discussion during the WG meeting at ICANN55, which is currently
> > scheduled for Wednesday
> > 9 March.
> >
> > However, should you wish to hold a brief discussion this Wednesday (at
> > our usual meeting time of 1700 UTC) to provide initial feedback on the
> > attached synopsis as a preparatory step to the fuller discussion next
> > week, please reply to this email accordingly. If a sufficient number
> > of members indicate that they would like to meet this week as well, we
> > will go ahead and schedule a call accordingly.
> >
> > Thanks and cheers
> > Mary
> >
> >
> > Mary Wong
> > Senior Policy Director
> > Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)
> > Email: mary.wong at icann.org
> > Telephone: +1-603-5744889
> >
> >
> > From: <gnso-igo-ingo-crp-bounces at icann.org> on behalf of Phil Corwin
> > <psc at vlaw-dc.com>
> > Date: Saturday, February 20, 2016 at 12:20
> > To: George Kirikos <icann at leap.com>
> > Cc: "gnso-igo-ingo-crp at icann.org" <gnso-igo-ingo-crp at icann.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Gnso-igo-ingo-crp] Any update on Swaine report?
> >
> > Dear IGO CRP WG Members:
> >
> >
> >
> > Here is a further update on the situation as regards Prof. Swaine’s
> > legal research.
> >
> >
> >
> > Petter and I, along with Mary and Steve, engaged in a one hour call
> > yesterday with Prof. Swaine in which we discussed our questions and
> > comments regarding the current uncompleted draft report, as well as
> > the needs of the WG in preparation for Marrakech.
> >
> >
> >
> > Prof. Swaine is not comfortable with having an incomplete document
> > bearing his name in wider circulation, and we fully appreciate that
> > viewpoint. In addition, due to his academic responsibilities for the
> > remainder of this month, he does not believe he will be able to
> > complete a final draft prior to a potential 3/2 WG call or our F2F
> > meeting in Marrakech (which is currently scheduled to take place from 9-10:15 am on Wednesday, March 9).
> >
> >
> >
> > However, he did commit to provide our WG with a synopsis of his
> > research to date in the next week to ten days, which will provide us a
> > focus for an anticipated WG planning call on 3/2. The same document
> > can be used to catalyze discussion in Marrakech – and we plan to make
> > sure that GAC and IGO attendees are made aware that they are welcome
> > to participate in our 3/9 session. We will then provide Prof. Swaine
> > with feedback from those two sessions to help guide him in his
> > completion of the report, which we now anticipate receiving in final form later in March.
> >
> >
> >
> > While we had all hoped to have a final report available prior to our
> > Marrakech meeting, the agreed upon approach seems like the second best
> > option and will at least provide us with a basis for discussion over
> > the next few weeks.
> >
> >
> >
> > Please let us know if you have questions or comments.
> >
> >
> >
> > Best to all,
> >
> > Philip
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Philip S. Corwin, Founding Principal
> >
> > Virtualaw LLC
> >
> > 1155 F Street, NW
> >
> > Suite 1050
> >
> > Washington, DC 20004
> >
> > 202-559-8597/Direct
> >
> > 202-559-8750/Fax
> >
> > 202-255-6172/cell
> >
> >
> >
> > Twitter: @VlawDC
> >
> >
> >
> > "Luck is the residue of design" -- Branch Rickey
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Phil Corwin
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 10:13 AM
> > To: 'George Kirikos'
> > Cc: gnso-igo-ingo-crp at icann.org
> > Subject: RE: [Gnso-igo-ingo-crp] Any update on Swaine report?
> >
> >
> >
> > George:
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks for your inquiry.
> >
> >
> >
> > Here's the state of play--
> >
> > · Last week we received a draft from Prof. Swaine. The draft was
> > incomplete in that it did not yet contain conclusions. It is quite
> > comprehensive on the interface of sovereign immunity and IGOs and
> > demonstrates that this area is not fully developed or uniform, that a
> > great deal of discretion is left to individual nations to determine
> > the scope of recognized immunity, and that some considerations argue
> > for waiver in the UDRP context as being acceptable, while others may
> > lead to a contrary conclusion.
> >
> > · Due to travel schedules, the first time that Petter and I had a
> > chance to discuss the draft with ICANN staff was yesterday. We are
> > seeking to schedule a call with Prof. Swaine later this week if at all
> > possible to raise various questions and issues as well as to determine
> > what his preliminary conclusions are..
> >
> > · Our hope is to get a more complete draft distributed to all WG
> > members as soon as possible, and certainly prior to the Marrakech meeting.
> > Once we speak with Prof. Swaine we will schedule a WG call for either
> > February 24 or March 2 (I depart for Marrakech on March 3) to prepare
> > for our Marrakech meeting.
> >
> > · At our meeting in Marrakech, we intend to seek comments on the
> > draft from all WG members, as well as from IGOs and GAC members.
> > (Staff-do we as yet have a time and date for our WG meeting?)
> > Following Marrakech we intend to move forward expeditiously on our
> > work using the report as a basis for determining our course.
> >
> > Let me know if you have any additional questions at this time.
> >
> >
> >
> > Best regards, Philip
> >
> >
> >
> > Philip S. Corwin, Founding Principal
> >
> > Virtualaw LLC
> >
> > 1155 F Street, NW
> >
> > Suite 1050
> >
> > Washington, DC 20004
> >
> > 202-559-8597/Direct
> >
> > 202-559-8750/Fax
> >
> > 202-255-6172/cell
> >
> >
> >
> > Twitter: @VlawDC
> >
> >
> >
> > "Luck is the residue of design" -- Branch Rickey
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: George Kirikos [mailto:icann at leap.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2016 4:33 PM
> > To: Phil Corwin
> > Cc: gnso-igo-ingo-crp at icann.org
> > Subject: Re: [Gnso-igo-ingo-crp] Any update on Swaine report?
> >
> >
> >
> > I just wanted to followup and see how things are progressing. If we
> > don't get the draft Swaine report soon, then that means we're looking
> > at sometime in March for our next teleconference? (i.e. there's no
> > meeting tomorrow, and it wouldn't make sense to have a meeting next
> > Wednesday unless the report was provided before the weekend, so folks
> > can digest it and have informed comments/discussions).
> >
> >
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> >
> >
> > George Kirikos
> >
> > 416-588-0269
> >
> > http://www.leap.com/
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 6:20 PM, Phil Corwin <psc at vlaw-dc.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Happy New Year, George.
> >
> >>
> >
> >> We have checked with Professor Swaine and are expecting a draft
> >> document very soon, possibly later this week. As soon as we receive
> >> it we will be back in touch with the WG.
> >
> >>
> >
> >> Best, Philip
> >
> >>
> >
> >> Philip S. Corwin, Founding Principal
> >
> >> Virtualaw LLC
> >
> >> 1155 F Street, NW
> >
> >> Suite 1050
> >
> >> Washington, DC 20004
> >
> >> 202-559-8597/Direct
> >
> >> 202-559-8750/Fax
> >
> >> 202-255-6172/cell
> >
> >>
> >
> >> Twitter: @VlawDC
> >
> >>
> >
> >> "Luck is the residue of design" -- Branch Rickey
> >
> >>
> >
> >>
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >
> >> From: gnso-igo-ingo-crp-bounces at icann.org
> >
> >> [mailto:gnso-igo-ingo-crp-bounces at icann.org] On Behalf Of George
> >
> >> Kirikos
> >
> >> Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 6:16 PM
> >
> >> To: gnso-igo-ingo-crp at icann.org
> >
> >> Subject: [Gnso-igo-ingo-crp] Any update on Swaine report?
> >
> >>
> >
> >> Hi folks,
> >
> >>
> >
> >> Happy New Year.
> >
> >>
> >
> >> It's been a while, so I just wanted to see if we have any
> >> news/updates regarding the Swaine report?
> >
> >>
> >
> >> Sincerely,
> >
> >>
> >
> >> George Kirikos
> >
> >> 416-588-0269
> >
> >> http://www.leap.com/
> >
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