[Gnso-igo-ingo-crp] LET's GET BACK TO WORK - Part 2 Re: Public Display of Possible Consensus
Paul Keating
Paul at law.es
Wed May 9 12:41:59 UTC 2018
PHIL,
Just a short refrain to your comments:
1. While I nominally remain co-chair of this WG, control over it has
essentially been assumed by the Chair of the GNSO Council via the Council
Liaison, as the WG's authority
is solely derived from Council.
RESPONSE. This is not correct. On April 26th Susan stated in an email
(copied below in full at the end of my email):
"I understand from last week’s call that members of the group are
willing
and keen to work together to reach a final document, and I fully
support that happening."
"It is the role of the WG, not the liaison or the Council, to drive
the effort to a final document for presentation to Council.”
"Our recommendation can be boiled down to suggesting that the WG
develop
its final output for presentation to the GNSO Council; if consensus
cannot
be reached on any particular points, the various options raised
should be
identified, as these are an important record of the ideas proposed
but not
agreed upon. Recording this information indeed was our intention in
conducting
the WG member consultation process."
If she had meant that the WG was under the control of the liaison or
Council she would have said so. She did not. She said “working group"
2. I find it both ironic and sad that the WG was brought to a halt by Mr.
Kirikos months ago because the co-chairs proposed to poll the full WG
membership to initiate the consensus call process, and that he persisted
in that appeal even after the co-chairs modified that proposal to assure
that the poll would be conducted in a fully transparent matter -- yet now
he has elected to conduct his own poll.
RESPONSE. This is not correct. I participated in the appeal process and
the related calls. The resulting agreement was to have the liaison
attempt to determine if there was consensus
and if so what that was. The issue of polls was discussed as a
post-liaison process on the condition that it would be transparent - as
opposed to your original
non-transparent plan that lead to the appeal.
3. Mr. Kirikos has no authority under the GNSO WG Guidelines to conduct
such a poll and its results have no official status.
RESPONSE. I find this a counter-productive statement that ignores the
goal of actually achieving consensus and working towards the preparation
of the final report.
Whether it is “official” or not, it helps guide the conversation
forward. It is a transparent broadcast of the views of those who
responded.
I even supplemented my responses with my reasoning as to each option.
3. I must also note that option 4 -- referral of any decisions on the IGO
CRP matter to the RPM Review WG -- is fundamentally incompatible with any
of the other options, which would make policy decisions now within the IGO
CRP WG. Yet several members are supporting both option 4 and others.
Whether that RPM WG will address IGO immunity issues specifically, or
sovereign immunity issues more generally, and whether addressing that
subject requires a Charter change, will be determined by its membership at
the appropriate time.
RESPONSE. First, I do not see how they are incompatible. Nothing in
Option 4 precludes the final report from expressing the WG views as to
immunity.
Second, Option 4 refers the underlying need for Policy/Rules alteration
to the appropriate WG for consideration as to any changes that may or may
not be required
to the UDRP or URS policies or underlying rules.
4. The Recommended Next Steps contained in the "SUMMARY REPORT FROM THE
GNSO COUNCIL LIAISON ON THE CURRENT STATUS OF CONSULTATIONS WITH THE
IGO-INGO CURATIVE RIGHTS PDP WORKING GROUP (12 April 2018)" continue to be
those that govern this WG as it comes to a conclusion.
RESPONSE. It would appear that Susan is recommending that the WG
continue to work towards identifying a consensus AND that the WG work
towards producing a “final report” by May 14th.
She even offers her assistance to work with a drafting team. And, in
the case consensus is not easily identified she provides reference to
another WG team and its approach
(listing the various options and indicating the level of support for
each). However, I see nothing in her recommendations that would support
abandoning efforts to identify
consensus.
Susan also stated in her April 26th email:
"I remain very willing to support and assist the WG in developing a
final report, and I understand from last week’s call that other
members of the WG are likewise willing. I suggest therefore that we
form a small drafting team with a view to developing a final
report by 14 May, in time for submission and consideration by the
Council during the 24 May GNSO Council meeting."
+++++++++++++++++++++
Here is the entirety of Susan’s April 26th email for anyone doubting the
quotations above:
Mary Wong mary.wong at icann.org
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________________________________________
Dear Working Group members,
Please see the email message below, which staff is sending on behalf of
Susan Kawaguchi, the GNSO Council liaison to our PDP Working Group.
Dear IGO-INGO Curative Rights Policy Development Process (PDP) Working
Group members,
I write in my role as GNSO Council liaison to this Working Group (WG) to
follow up on the WG meeting held last week and to clarify
misunderstandings that may have arisen from that call.
The intention in providing a report of the WG member consultation process
was to develop a record of the views expressed in that process.
Ultimately, a PDP WG is required to report its findings to the GNSO
Council. The member consultation process was intended to provide a
workable pathway to reaching this point, and the record of those views
intended to inform the WG’s final report to the GNSO Council. I understand
from last week’s call that members of the group are willing and keen to
work together to reach a final document, and I fully support that
happening.
While the member consultation process was initiated to address a Section
3.7 appeal under the GNSO WG Guidelines in which concerns were raised
about the appropriate means of designating WG consensus, the
recommendations made by me and the GNSO Chair go beyond the Section 3.7
appeal, because the input received during the consultation process raised
other issues going beyond the scope of the appeal. Many of these other
issues dovetailed with the GNSO Council’s current initiative to improve
the effectiveness and efficiency of PDPs (a process we call “PDP 3.0”).
One of the priorities raised by the Council in its Strategic Planning
Session in January 2018 and by PDP leaders and the community in a workshop
held at ICANN61 was for Council to take a more active role in supporting
and managing PDP timelines. In its Strategic Planning Session, the GNSO
Council identified completion of this PDP’s work by mid-year to be a top
priority based on the broader GNSO PDP workload and each PDP’s timeline
and milestones.
Ultimately, Heather’s and my recommendation that the WG wind up its work
takes that input from the GNSO Council into account. Our recommendation
can be boiled down to suggesting that the WG develop its final output for
presentation to the GNSO Council; if consensus cannot be reached on any
particular points, the various options raised should be identified, as
these are an important record of the ideas proposed but not agreed upon.
Recording this information indeed was our intention in conducting the WG
member consultation process.
To clarify, the intention of the WG member consultation process was never
to guarantee or influence a particular substantive outcome, or even to
guarantee that consensus would be reached on any/all points under
discussion; it was merely to provide an alternative approach by which
members could voice their views on the points under discussion and capture
these for inclusion in the record and to gain an understanding of each WG
member’s point of view.
It is the role of the WG, not the liaison or the Council, to drive the
effort to a final document for presentation to Council. To that end, we
suggested that if the group cannot achieve consensus on any particular
points, then the model of the Cross-Country Working Group for the Use of
Country & Territory Names as TLDs (CWG-UCTN) Final Report would be
instructive (that group’s final report contains three recommendations on
which consensus was reached, and a fourth recommendation presented in
option form with support recorded for each option).
I remain very willing to support and assist the WG in developing a final
report, and I understand from last week’s call that other members of the
WG are likewise willing. I suggest therefore that we form a small drafting
team with a view to developing a final report by 14 May, in time for
submission and consideration by the Council during the 24 May GNSO Council
meeting.
Kind regards,
Susan
(GNSO Council liaison to the IGO-INGO Curative Rights PDP WG)
Thank you,
Sincerely,
Paul Raynor Keating, Esq.
Law.es <http://law.es/>
Tel. +34 93 368 0247 (Spain)
Tel. +44.7531.400.177 (UK)
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On 5/8/18, 9:09 PM, "Gnso-igo-ingo-crp on behalf of Corwin, Philip via
Gnso-igo-ingo-crp" <gnso-igo-ingo-crp-bounces at icann.org on behalf of
gnso-igo-ingo-crp at icann.org> wrote:
>While I nominally remain co-chair of this WG, control over it has
>essentially been assumed by the Chair of the GNSO Council via the Council
>Liaison, as the WG's authority is solely derived from Council.
>
>I find it both ironic and sad that the WG was brought to a halt by Mr.
>Kirikos months ago because the co-chairs proposed to poll the full WG
>membership to initiate the consensus call process, and that he persisted
>in that appeal even after the co-chairs modified that proposal to assure
>that the poll would be conducted in a fully transparent matter -- yet now
>he has elected to conduct his own poll.
>
>Mr. Kirikos has no authority under the GNSO WG Guidelines to conduct such
>a poll and its results have no official status.
>
>I must also note that option 4 -- referral of any decisions on the IGO
>CRP matter to the RPM Review WG -- is fundamentally incompatible with any
>of the other options, which would make policy decisions now within the
>IGO CRP WG. Yet several members are supporting both option 4 and others.
>Whether that RPM WG will address IGO immunity issues specifically, or
>sovereign immunity issues more generally, and whether addressing that
>subject requires a Charter change, will be determined by its membership
>at the appropriate time.
>
>The Recommended Next Steps contained in the "SUMMARY REPORT FROM THE GNSO
>COUNCIL LIAISON ON THE CURRENT STATUS OF CONSULTATIONS WITH THE IGO-INGO
>CURATIVE RIGHTS PDP WORKING GROUP (12 April 2018)" continue to be those
>that govern this WG as it comes to a conclusion.
>
>I know that some members of this WG may wish to engage me in debate or
>dialogue regarding the above statement, but I shall have nothing further
>to say in advance of Thursday's call.
>
>
>Philip S. Corwin
>Policy Counsel
>VeriSign, Inc.
>12061 Bluemont Way
>Reston, VA 20190
>703-948-4648/Direct
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>
>"Luck is the residue of design" -- Branch Rickey
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Gnso-igo-ingo-crp [mailto:gnso-igo-ingo-crp-bounces at icann.org] On
>Behalf Of Bikoff, James
>Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2018 2:23 PM
>To: George Kirikos <icann at leap.com>; gnso-igo-ingo-.
><gnso-igo-ingo-crp at icann.org>
>Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [Gnso-igo-ingo-crp] Public Display of Possible
>Consensus
>
>No on others.
>
>
>
>James L. Bikoff | Attorney at Law
>
>202-263-4341 Phone
>202-263-4329 Fax
>www.sgrlaw.com
>jbikoff at sgrlaw.com
>
>1055 Thomas Jefferson Street, N.W.
>Suite 400
>Washington, D.C. 20007
>
>Smith, Gambrell & Russell, LLP
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: George Kirikos [mailto:icann at leap.com]
>Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2018 2:20 PM
>To: Bikoff, James; gnso-igo-ingo-.
>Subject: Re: [Gnso-igo-ingo-crp] Public Display of Possible Consensus
>
>Thanks for posting, James.
>
>Just for completeness, do you have a position (for/against) the other
>5 options? I plan to make a table at some point, to summarize things, and
>don't want to have empty spaces. It could be yes/no/maybe/unsure, etc.
>
>Sincerely,
>
>George
>
>On Tue, May 8, 2018 at 2:17 PM, Bikoff, James <jbikoff at sgrlaw.com> wrote:
>> I am also in favor of option 4.
>>
>> Jim
>>
>>
>>
>> James L. Bikoff | Attorney at Law
>>
>> 202-263-4341 Phone
>> 202-263-4329 Fax
>> www.sgrlaw.com
>> jbikoff at sgrlaw.com
>>
>> 1055 Thomas Jefferson Street, N.W.
>> Suite 400
>> Washington, D.C. 20007
>>
>> Smith, Gambrell & Russell, LLP
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Gnso-igo-ingo-crp [mailto:gnso-igo-ingo-crp-bounces at icann.org]
>> On Behalf Of David W. Maher
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2018 1:57 PM
>> To: gnso-igo-ingo-.
>> Subject: Re: [Gnso-igo-ingo-crp] Public Display of Possible Consensus
>>
>>
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>>
>> My preferences are as follows:
>> Option 1: Yes
>> Option 2: No
>> Option 3: No
>> Option 4: Yes
>> Option 5: No
>> Option 6: No
>>
>> In general, I agree with Paul Keating's reasoning, with the minor
>>exception that I would prefer Option 4 over Option 1 because Option 4
>>gives the IGOs an opportunity to have their voice heard.
>> David Maher
>>
>> David W. Maher
>> Public Interest Registry
>> Senior Vice-President - Law & Policy
>> +1 312 375 4849
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Gnso-igo-ingo-crp [mailto:gnso-igo-ingo-crp-bounces at icann.org]
>> On Behalf Of Paul Keating
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2018 8:18 AM
>> To: Paul Keating <Paul at law.es>; George Kirikos <icann at leap.com>;
>> gnso-igo-ingo-. <gnso-igo-ingo-crp at icann.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Gnso-igo-ingo-crp] Public Display of Possible Consensus
>> Importance: High
>>
>> Having been asked by several people for my reasoning behind my votes, I
>>thought I would simply post it openly.
>>
>> Option 1: Yes.
>>
>> This is a simple solution that returns the process to a balance. It
>>leaves the IGO with the complete freedom of choice (just as it had in
>>filing the UDRP). The consequence (voiding the UDRP) is a simple and
>>easily understood consequence of seeking the benefit of immunity AND
>>does not bog us down in discussions as to whether immunity existed or
>>whether it had already been waived by the IGO via the UDRP filing.
>>
>> Option 2: NO.
>>
>> Although a nice attempt to seek compromise, I found it too confusing
>>and feared it would lead to us becoming bogged down in discussion over
>>details.
>>
>> Option 3: NO.
>>
>> I am most opposed to the idea of this WG attempting to create any form
>>of alternative dispute system. This is more appropriately addressed by
>>a wider and more fully functioning WG such as that addressing the RPM.
>>
>> Option 4: YES.
>>
>> I am fully in favor of suggesting that the other WG handle this matter.
>> They are a larger group with more professionals on board. They are
>>also experienced in tackling complex issues. I know this because I am a
>>member of both this and the RPM WG.
>>
>> Option 5: NO.
>>
>> Issues of ³in rem² and declaratory relief are inherently common law
>>principles and are not shared by many jurisdictions, including those
>>based upon civil law (that which looks only to statutes and not to prior
>>judicial decisions as the reference point). This would require too much
>>discussion by this WG to achieve true consensus as to what is or is not
>>involved in turning this option into the more robust descriptions
>>necessary. Also, I have had no difficulty in dealing with post-UDRP
>>claims based upon this distinction (suing a party or suing a thing). I
>>also am unsure if a US in rem action would be permitted to continue in
>>the absence of an IGO that successfully asserted sovereign immunity.
>>So, overall, too complex for this WG given its directive.
>>
>> Option 6: NO.
>>
>> I STRONGLY favor any form of mediation and have previously provided my
>>thoughts and concerns over the Nominet program. I ENCOURAGE Brian and
>>anyone else (at either WIPO or NAF) to initiate such a program.
>> Initiating such a program would not require any modification to to the
>>UDRP as it could be entirely voluntary. HOWEVER, to the extent that
>>this Option 6 would require discussion and consensus surrounding the
>>rules underlying an obligatory mediation program, such is beyond the
>>scope of this WG and not likely to have a successful outcome,
>>particularly given what has been transpiring in this WG to date.
>>
>> So, there you have my thoughts.
>>
>> I ENCOURAGE all WG members to respond to George¹s email regardless of
>>your views.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> Paul Raynor Keating, Esq.
>>
>> Law.es <http://law.es/>
>>
>> Tel. +34 93 368 0247 (Spain)
>>
>> Tel. +44.7531.400.177 (UK)
>> Tel. +1.415.937.0846 (US)
>>
>> Fax. (Europe) +34 93 396 0810
>>
>> Fax. (US)(415) 358.4450
>>
>> Skype: Prk-Spain
>>
>> email: Paul at law.es
>>
>>
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>> On 5/8/18, 2:36 PM, "Gnso-igo-ingo-crp on behalf of Paul Keating"
>> <gnso-igo-ingo-crp-bounces at icann.org on behalf of Paul at law.es> wrote:
>>
>>>All (and Mary),
>>>
>>>I have previously stated my position regarding these matters but am
>>>growing concerned that my vote has not been counted in the ensuing
>>>documentation that has been issued.
>>>
>>>To be VERY clear please note my voting as to the options as follows:
>>>
>>>
>>>----------------------------------
>>>
>>>Name: PAUL KEATING
>>>Option 1: Yes
>>>Option 2: NO
>>>Option 3: NO
>>>Option 4: YES
>>>Option 5: NO
>>>Option 6: NO
>>>
>>>Please note that my preference is for #1 (UDRP decision becomes void)
>>>BUT I also want to be counted for #4 (referral to RPM WG).
>>>
>>>Thank you,
>>>
>>>Sincerely,
>>>
>>>Paul Raynor Keating, Esq.
>>>
>>>Law.es <http://law.es/>
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>>>Tel. +34 93 368 0247 (Spain)
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>>>email: Paul at law.es
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>>>On 5/7/18, 8:42 PM, "Gnso-igo-ingo-crp on behalf of George Kirikos"
>>><gnso-igo-ingo-crp-bounces at icann.org on behalf of icann at leap.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Hi folks,
>>>>
>>>>Since there's been no response to the call for the true numbers to be
>>>>posted:
>>>>
>>>>https://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-igo-ingo-crp/2018-May/001140.html
>>>>
>>>>let's attempt to do this transparently. I believe we might already
>>>>have a consensus.
>>>>
>>>>The 6 options (not mutually exclusive!) were at:
>>>>
>>>>https://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-igo-ingo-crp/2018-March/001093.ht
>>>>m
>>>>l
>>>>
>>>>Briefly:
>>>>
>>>>Option 1: set aside the UDRP/URS decision, to put both sides back in
>>>>the same position
>>>>
>>>>Option 2: use Option 1 for existing domain names, and Option 3 for
>>>>newly created domains
>>>>
>>>>Option 3: arbitration
>>>>
>>>>Option 4: refer it to the RPM PDP
>>>>
>>>>Option 5: lock the domains in the event of an "in rem" lawsuit (not
>>>>just "in personam")
>>>>
>>>>Option 6: mediation as a step, and then back to Option 1 if need be
>>>>
>>>>If you'd like to post your position/thoughts in an open and
>>>>transparent manner, please do so in this thread, using the following
>>>>template
>>>>
>>>>----------------------------------
>>>>
>>>>Name:
>>>>Option 1:
>>>>Option 2:
>>>>Option 3:
>>>>Option 4:
>>>>Option 5:
>>>>Option 6:
>>>>
>>>>----------------------------------
>>>>
>>>>For myself:
>>>>
>>>>Option 1: yes, I support this (ultimately my first choice)
>>>>
>>>>Option 2: yes, I can support this as a compromise
>>>>
>>>>Option 3: no, I can't support this
>>>>
>>>>Option 4: yes, I can support this; Paul Keating's prior suggestion of
>>>>having Option 1 be the interim solution if Option 4 is
>>>>
>>>>Option 5: yes, I support this, and it works in parallel to all other
>>>>options
>>>>
>>>>Option 6: yes, I support mediation
>>>>
>>>>Sincerely,
>>>>
>>>>George Kirikos
>>>>416-588-0269
>>>>http://www.leap.com/
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