[Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt4] Recording, Attendance & AC Chat from New gTLD Subsequent Procedures Sub Team Track 4 IDNs/Technical & Operations call
Michelle DeSmyter
michelle.desmyter at icann.org
Thu Dec 15 01:41:31 UTC 2016
Dear All,
Please find the attendance and recording of the call attached to this email and the AC Chat below for the New gTLD Subsequent Procedures Sub Team – Track 4 – IDNs/Technical & Operations held on Wednesday, 14 December 2016 at 20:00 UTC.
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Michelle
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Adobe Connect chat transcript for 14 December 2016
Michelle DeSmyter:Dear All, Welcome to the New gTLD Subsequent Procedures Sub Team – Track 4 – IDNs/Technical & Operations call on Wednesday, 14 December 2016 at 20:00 UTC.
Michelle DeSmyter:Meeting page: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_K6HDAw&d=DgIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=8_WhWIPqsLT6TmF1Zmyci866vcPSFO4VShFqESGe_5iHWGlBLwwwehFBfjrsjWv9&m=Z7ZdJdfTNTbKBimj7GiYirpbRPS0Qh0PHnnZC6_Er4Y&s=UqSuRYcLDSXb4JISXkuzPZUcXhscxT-rdg7qvYNpilU&e=
Julie Hedlund:That sounds fine -- thanks!
Phil Buckingham:rubens - you are very faint . Could you speak up
avri doria:idoegraphic cs. non ideographic
avri doria:?
Phil Buckingham:me too - re headphones . but still faint
avri doria:might want to consider adding ", if any" at the end of the stmt.
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):good point Avri
avri doria:i think we need two reading, both on calls to close a consensus call.
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):yes the rationale is important on this proposed recommendation
Phil Buckingham:this is a catch 22 , since the technical costs/ so contractual relationship with the backend provider will need be incurred and the costs put in the financial model for evaluation .
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):thx Avri
Phil Buckingham:no audio
Phil Buckingham:thanks Cheryl
avri doria:wee have to learn to speak again on AC. hard to do i know, i almost forgot how.
Steve Chan:@Phil, we are happy to provide a dial out if you'd care to join!
Phil Buckingham:point taken , Avri
Steve Chan:If I recall, part of why every application was considered indivudually overall was related to principles of fairness? Kurt would probably be able to fact check that statement.
Kurt Pritz:I have a bad connection. and did not hear the question
Kurt Pritz:can you repeat. ? or skip me?
Phil Buckingham:Totally agree Kurt. and nobody knew who was going to apply , how many portfolio players would submit multiple applications using the same model
Rubens Kuhl:Kurt, that was Steve question from the chat above.
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):chat above from Steve
Phil Buckingham:the financial model was templated / standardised . It wont work for Round 2 . Each applicant's financial model needs to treat separately , evaluated , due diligence accordingly
Phil Buckingham:Agreed Alan . Alot more .
Steve Chan:@Rubens, I tried to note that the report acknowledges those challenges to some degree, but apparently i made that point ineffectively
Steve Chan:So not just about inefficiency...
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Action Items/Discussion Notes 14 December
1. Hyderabad recap [slide 5 of the slide deck]
-- Support for IDN 1-character was pictogram (Japanese or Korean), but opposition was not to Latin and Cyrillic, but use a more generic term.
-- Probably would be good to use generic terms for all of them.
-- Only those that represent 1 word.
-- On support for IDN Variant TLDS -- Staff have had preliminary discussions with Sarmad Hussain on staff. He could provide background or a status update on the program.
>From the Chat:
avri doria: idoegraphic cs. non ideographic
2. Consensus call 1: Technical capability to be assessed at contract signing time [slide 7 in the slide deck]
Possible language: "Applicants must be able to demonstrate their technical capability to run a registry operation for the purpose that the applicant sets out, but will only be required to do so at contract-signing time, after passing other criteria and/or approvals and prevailing in contention set(s), [if any]."
-- If we do a consensus call over email should have the full story documented and presented to be taken into account.
-- Today's discussion is just a temperature taking, not a consensus call.
-- Explaining why the change is being made is important. Good to lay out those conditions, which will help this make sense.
-- The financial model and testing the technical model are two different things.
>From the chat:
avri doria: might want to consider adding ", if any" at the end of the stmt.
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): good point Avri
avri doria: i think we need two reading, both on calls to close a consensus call.
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): yes the rationale is important on this proposed recommendation
Phil Buckingham: this is a catch 22 , since the technical costs/ so contractual relationship with the backend provider will need be incurred and the costs put in the financial model for evaluation.
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): thx Avri
3. Discussion: Technical evaluation of applications to be performed as aggregated as feasible [slide 9 from the slide deck]
-- During the evaluation process there wasn't a realization of how the market would evolve with respect to backend providers .
-- It was thought at the outset that individual applications needed to be evaluated in the absense of knowing that the backend marketplace would be established. Things didn't work out as predicted.
>From the Chat:
Steve Chan: If I recall, part of why every application was considered indivudually overall was related to principles of fairness? Kurt would probably be able to fact check that statement.
Phil Buckingham: Totally agree Kurt. and nobody knew who was going to apply , how many portfolio players would submit multiple applications using the same model
4. Discussion: Timing and method for Financial Evaluation [slide 10 from the slide deck]
-- Could have speculative applications. The financial models are going to vary even more if the price goes down.
-- Look at the program implementation report that staff produced. There were inefficiencies from treating every application individually.
>From the chat:
Phil Buckingham: the financial model was templated / standardised . It wont work for Round 2 . Each applicant's financial model needs to treat separately , evaluated , due diligence accordingly Agreed Alan . Alot more .
Steve Chan: @Rubens, I tried to note that the report acknowledges those challenges to some degree, but apparently i made that point ineffectively. So not just about inefficiency...
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