[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Next week's meeting

Mon Apr 25 15:22:17 UTC 2016

FWIW, the EWG's mandate was to examine and on the balance of facts, make
'green field' recommendations for registration data, here forward.

-Carlton

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On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 8:44 AM, Greg Aaron <gca at icginc.com> wrote:

> The EWG final report gets closer, but it:
>
> ·        Details what elements the EWG recommended be mandatory  *in the
> future*, not whether they are mandatory or optional at this time.
>
> ·        AFAIK does not list all of the data elements that are currently
> collected. (Such as Account Holder data.)
>
> ·        Lists purposes for which data is collected, with good detail.
>   But then the display issues are a separate matter.
>
>
>
> One of the problems with the EWG report is that its recommendations are
> tied to one highly specific implementation (the ARDS) in a way that is
> sometimes difficult to disambiguate.  SSAC commented about that in
> SAC061.  The EWG report is predicated on a system that provides gated
> access *and* holds all gTLD data in one master, central repository.
> Whether those ideas are good ones or not is something to discuss  down the
> line.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Greg Aaron
> *Sent:* Sunday, April 24, 2016 12:32 PM
> *To:* 'Holly Raiche' <h.raiche at internode.on.net>
> *Cc:* gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org
> *Subject:* RE: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Next week's meeting
>
>
>
> Dear Holly:
>
>
>
> As a co-author of SAC054, I note the following.  You said that SAC054
> identifies “not only the data elements collected, but the purpose for which
> they are collected, and identify whether the collection is optional or
> mandatory.”
>
>
>
> 1. SAC054 does not list all of the data elements that are collected.  It
> lists what is usually displayed in gTLD WHOIS.  Registrars collect some
> data that is not displayed in WHOIS, and that data is not listed in
> SAC054.  For example: account holder data (which may be different from
> Registrant data), and the IP addresses of these making domain transactions.
>
>
>
> 2.  SAC054 does not list all the purposes for which data is collected.
> SAC054 focuses narrowly on data elements used to manage the domain
> lifecycle and operations.  In other words, some operational purposes, and
> there may be other purposes.
>
>
>
> 3.  SAC054 does not identify whether the collection of a given piece of
> data is optional or mandatory.
>
>                SAC054 says: "This document contains an enumeration of
> commonly used data elements. It is not a list or recommendation of which
> elements are or should be mandatory versus optional.  Some technical
> specifications (notably the Extensible Provisioning Protocol (EPP) RFCs)
> denote certain data elements as mandatory to collect, and ICANN gTLD
> contracts make certain fields mandatory to display in directory services.”
>
>
>
> With best wishes,
>
> --Greg
>
>
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> <gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org>] *On Behalf Of *Holly Raiche
> *Sent:* Sunday, April 24, 2016 1:59 AM
> *To:* Marika Konings <marika.konings at icann.org>
> *Cc:* gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org
> *Subject:* Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Next week's meeting
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>
>
> Dear All
>
>
>
> While I am apology for the next meeting, and not part of either the
> Privacy or Purpose sub-teams, may I suggest two documents particularly that
> have been identified and summarised by the data sub team: the SAC54
> document which identifies the data elements collected, and  the EWG
> Recommendations. (in our list of documents, items 6 and 27) They are
> particularly relevant as they identify not only the data elements
> collected, but the purpose for which they are collected, and identify
> whether the collection is optional or mandatory.  This will be particularly
> useful for the other groups since the underlying principle of data
> collection in that data should only be collected that that is needed to
> carry out the functions of the enterprise, and that the data that is
> collected should only be used and accessed for the identified purposes.
>
>
>
> While I will not be on the next call, Jim Galvin may be on the call, and
> he was one of the authors of SAC054 and can speak to it.
>
>
>
> I hope that helps the discussion at the next meeting.
>
>
>
> Holly
>
>
>
>
>
> On 22 Apr 2016, at 3:57 am, Marika Konings <marika.konings at icann.org>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> Dear All,
>
>
>
> Not having heard any objections, we’ll go ahead and re-organise next
> week’s meeting as follows:
>
>    - 15.30 – 16.15 UTC Data Sub-Team
>    - 16.15 – 17.00 UTC Privacy Sub-Team
>    - 17.00 – 17.45 UTC Purpose Sub-Team
>
>
>
> Note that this will be scheduled as one call (same dial in number and AC
> room) to facilitate participation for those that are involved in multiple
> sub-teams, but there is no obligation for WG members to attend all three
> sub-team meetings, unless you would like to. However, if you are not a
> member of a sub-team but would like to join, you are encouraged to
> participate as an observer to allow ample opportunity for the sub-team to
> progress in its work.
>
>
>
> Call details will be sent out in a separate email. Please ignore the
> notice that went out earlier today for the ‘normal’ WG meeting.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Marika
>
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