[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Materials for next WG call

Sun Mar 20 23:28:45 UTC 2016

In addition, the mailing list archives of the different initiatives can be
found here: http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/mailing-lists/archive.

Best regards,

Marika

From:  <gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org> on behalf of Lisa Phifer
<lisa at corecom.com>
Date:  Sunday 20 March 2016 at 14:12
To:  Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca>
Cc:  "gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org" <gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org>
Subject:  Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Materials for next WG call

Hundreds of links to archived WHOIS policy work going back to 2001 can be
found at the GNSO's website here:
http://gnso.icann.org/en/issues/whois/archive

 <http://gnso.icann.org/en/issues/whois/archive> The WHOIS 2007 Task Force
landing page is linked to that archival page:
https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2007-03-16-en

That landing page includes a link leading to over 260 public comment
submissions. When reading, just bear in mind that comments made a decade ago
may no longer reflect the commenter's current thoughts or related laws and
policies.

GNSO WHOIS studies launched in response to the 2007 WHOIS TF report can also
be reached throught the GNSO's archival page, with links to study RFCs,
draft/final reports, recorded researcher presentations, and public comments
all linked to this WHOIS studies landing page:
http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/other/whois/studies

 <http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/other/whois/studies> Happy
reading,
Lisa

At 01:29 PM 3/20/2016, you wrote:
> Thanks Lisa and thanks to Ayden for his advanced search skills which yielded
> results!  I hesitate to ask, but I want to see all the comments to the earlier
> WHOIS studies and task forces as well....and I cannot find them in the
> Archives.  Can we please have these things pulled up?  I understand that at
> least in theory the questions we have been handed are supposed to be a
> distillation of earlier work, but I would certainly like to read all the
> earlier work.  As long as we are going to go at this for five years, we might
> as well get informed....
> Kind regards, 
> Stephanie
> 
> On 2016-03-20 14:08, Lisa Phifer wrote:
>> Thanks Stephanie.
>> 
>> As you found, the HTML version of the 2007 WHOIS TF's final report is indeed
>> the official version (
>> http://gnso.icann.org/en/issues/whois-privacy/whois-services-final-tf-report-
>> 12mar07.htm ). I will add the English PDF printed at the time of the report's
>> submission (thanks Ayden!) to this WG's wiki background materials page for
>> ease of printing.
>> 
>> Please also note the RDS PDP Issue Report's Section 3.2.2, WHOIS Task Force
>> Final Report (2007), which concludes:
>> 
>> The final report of this [2007 WHOIS] Task Force provides an excellent source
>> of information for learning the types of data collected and the purposes of
>> data collection. However, the GNSO did not adopt the Task Force proposals.
>> Instead, the GNSO recommended pursuing formal, targeted studies to generate
>> empirical data to inform future policy discussions.
>> 
>> As you highlighted below, it is this RDS PDP WG which is now tasked with
>> redefining purpose.
>> 
>> This was done because the 2007 task force - along with prior and subsequent
>> GNSO efforts - could not reach consensus on policy reforms that hinge upon
>> this question of purpose. Following further analysis by the 2012 WHOIS RT and
>> SSAC in SAC055, the board requested this RDS PDP to take a different, more
>> structured approach to help this WG achieve consensus, decomposing this
>> complex issue into component questions that all reflect this WG's answer to
>> that fundamental question of purpose.
>> 
>> Best, Lisa
>> 
>> 
>> At 08:09 PM 3/19/2016, Stephanie Perrin wrote:
>>> Thanks very much for these materials Lisa.  Please let me reiterate a point
>>> that I guess has not registered yet.  The first question we have to ask is
>>> "what is the purpose of collecting, using, storing, and disclosing
>>> registration data?  If we agree on the narrow definition that was defined in
>>> the 2007 WHOIS task force report, then many of the current uses, as has been
>>> pointed out by the global data commissioners repeatedly, are not legitimate.
>>> So lets agree on the purpose of data collection first. I am deeply concerned
>>> about the discussion of "requirements".  Here is the 2007 definition:
>>> The GNSO Council recommends that the WHOIS task force use the following
>>> definition: "The purpose of the gTLD WHOIS service is to provide information
>>> sufficient to contact a responsible party for a particular gTLD domain name
>>> who can resolve, or reliably pass on data to a party who can resolve, issues
>>> related to the configuration of the records associated with the domain name
>>> within a DNS name server." as a working definition to allow the task force
>>> to proceed on terms of reference (2), (3), and (4)
>>> 
>>> Note:  the ICANN wiki says this is what we are doing:
>>> " The Next-Generation gTLD Registration Directory Services to Replace Whois
>>> Policy Development Process Working Group (RDS-PDP-WG) has been established
>>> to redefine the purpose of gTLD registration data and to consider how to
>>> safeguard this data. It is also tasked with proposing a model for gTLD
>>> registration directory services that will address accuracy, privacy, and
>>> access issues. "
>>> If we are redefining the purpose of gTLD registration data, we should
>>> address that question first.
>>> cheers Stephanie
>>> 
>>> On 2016-03-19 11:18, Lisa Phifer wrote:
>>>> Greetings all,
>>>> 
>>>> Attached please find materials developed by the leadership team to
>>>> facilitate discussion during the next WG call. These materials include:
>>>> 
>>>> (1) A summary table of all work plan changes proposed thus far. This serves
>>>> as a consolidated record of all suggestions made to date during WG calls,
>>>> meetings, and on the email list. Staff will continue to add any new
>>>> suggestions made between now and the next WG call as new rows to the end of
>>>> this table. This table is a tool to help all WG members easily recall and
>>>> consider all of the suggestions made by everyone, before attempting to
>>>> agree upon resolutions. In creating this table, we tried to extract and
>>>> accurately paraphrase changes and rationale from lengthier email exchanges,
>>>> but the WG's email archive ( http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-rds-pdp-wg)
>>>> can be consulted for all email message text in full. Italicized "Notes"
>>>> have also been included to provide linkage between suggestions and related
>>>> charter questions.
>>>> 
>>>> (2) A mind map of fundamental questions and sub-questions. This serves as a
>>>> concise illustration of the fundamental questions and sub-questions
>>>> detailed in the Issue Report and Charter. This map can be adjusted as the
>>>> WG agrees upon refinements to questions (including but not limited to
>>>> sequencing) and adds new subquestions, inter-dependencies, further inputs,
>>>> and detailed policies that should be "parked" for consideration during
>>>> phases 2/3. This map is a tool to help the WG better understand and reach
>>>> agreement on fundamental questions to be addressed in phase 1 by providing
>>>> an overall picture as well as an opportunity to start thinking about
>>>> additional sub-questions and whether there are certain questions that need
>>>> to be considered before being able to address other questions, etc.
>>>> 
>>>> (3) A simple text listing of the questions and sub-questions in the mind
>>>> map - for those who may find a simple bullet list of questions in text
>>>> format more useful than a mind map.
>>>> 
>>>> We hope that the WG will find these materials to be a helpful starting
>>>> point to facilitate further WG discussion on the phase 1 work plan.
>>>> 
>>>> In addition, the leadership team is working on an annotated draft of the
>>>> work plan itself, to be distributed on Monday for use during Tuesday's RDS
>>>> PDP WG call.
>>>> 
>>>> Best Regards,
>>>> Lisa
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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