[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Materials for next WG call

Stephanie Perrin stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca
Mon Mar 21 01:13:06 UTC 2016 

Thanks Lisa!
Stephanie

On 2016-03-20 16:12, Lisa Phifer wrote:
> Hundreds of links to archived WHOIS policy work going back to 2001 can 
> be found at the GNSO's website here:
> http://gnso.icann.org/en/issues/whois/archive
>
> <http://gnso.icann.org/en/issues/whois/archive>The WHOIS 2007 Task 
> Force landing page is linked to that archival page:
> https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2007-03-16-en 
> <https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2007-03-16-en>
>
> That landing page includes a link leading to over 260 public comment 
> submissions. When reading, just bear in mind that comments made a 
> decade ago may no longer reflect the commenter's current thoughts or 
> related laws and policies.
>
> GNSO WHOIS studies launched in response to the 2007 WHOIS TF report 
> can also be reached throught the GNSO's archival page, with links to 
> study RFCs, draft/final reports, recorded researcher presentations, 
> and public comments all linked to this WHOIS studies landing page: 
> http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/other/whois/studies
>
> <http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/other/whois/studies>Happy 
> reading,
> Lisa
>
>
>
> At 01:29 PM 3/20/2016, you wrote:
>> Thanks Lisa and thanks to Ayden for his advanced search skills which 
>> yielded results!  I hesitate to ask, but I want to see all the 
>> comments to the earlier WHOIS studies and task forces as well....and 
>> I cannot find them in the Archives. Can we please have these things 
>> pulled up?  I understand that at least in theory the questions we 
>> have been handed are supposed to be a distillation of earlier work, 
>> but I would certainly like to read all the earlier work.  As long as 
>> we are going to go at this for five years, we might as well get 
>> informed....
>> Kind regards,
>> Stephanie
>>
>> On 2016-03-20 14:08, Lisa Phifer wrote:
>>> Thanks Stephanie.
>>>
>>> As you found, the HTML version of the 2007 WHOIS TF's final report 
>>> is indeed the official version ( 
>>> http://gnso.icann.org/en/issues/whois-privacy/whois-services-final-tf-report-12mar07.htm 
>>> ). I will add the English PDF printed at the time of the report's 
>>> submission (thanks Ayden!) to this WG's wiki background materials 
>>> page for ease of printing.
>>>
>>> Please also note the RDS PDP Issue Report's Section 3.2.2, WHOIS 
>>> Task Force Final Report (2007), which concludes:
>>>
>>> *The final report of this [2007 WHOIS] Task Force provides an 
>>> excellent source of information for learning the types of data 
>>> collected and the purposes of data collection. However, the GNSO did 
>>> /not /adopt the Task Force proposals. Instead, the GNSO recommended 
>>> pursuing formal, targeted studies to generate empirical data to 
>>> inform future policy discussions.
>>>
>>> *As you highlighted below, it is this RDS PDP WG which is now tasked 
>>> with redefining purpose.
>>>
>>> This was done because the 2007 task force - along with prior and 
>>> subsequent GNSO efforts - could not reach consensus on policy 
>>> reforms that hinge upon this question of purpose. Following further 
>>> analysis by the 2012 WHOIS RT and SSAC in SAC055, the board 
>>> requested this RDS PDP to take a different, more structured approach 
>>> to help this WG achieve consensus, decomposing this complex issue 
>>> into component questions that all reflect this WG's answer to that 
>>> fundamental question of purpose.
>>>
>>> Best, Lisa
>>>
>>>
>>> At 08:09 PM 3/19/2016, Stephanie Perrin wrote:
>>>> Thanks very much for these materials Lisa.  Please let me reiterate 
>>>> a point that I guess has not registered yet.  The first question we 
>>>> have to ask is "what is the purpose of collecting, using, storing, 
>>>> and disclosing registration data?  If we agree on the narrow 
>>>> definition that was defined in the 2007 WHOIS task force report, 
>>>> then many of the current uses, as has been pointed out by the 
>>>> global data commissioners repeatedly, are not legitimate.  So lets 
>>>> agree on the purpose of data collection first. I am deeply 
>>>> concerned about the discussion of "requirements".  Here is the 2007 
>>>> definition:
>>>> /The GNSO Council recommends that the WHOIS task force use the 
>>>> following definition: "The purpose of the gTLD WHOIS service is to 
>>>> provide information sufficient to contact a responsible party for a 
>>>> particular gTLD domain name who can resolve, or reliably pass on 
>>>> data to a party who can resolve, issues related to the 
>>>> configuration of the records associated with the domain name within 
>>>> a DNS name server." as a working definition to allow the task force 
>>>> to proceed on terms of reference (2), (3), and (4)
>>>>
>>>> /Note:  the ICANN wiki says this is what we are doing:
>>>> " The *Next-Generation gTLD Registration Directory Services to 
>>>> Replace Whois Policy Development Process Working Group* 
>>>> (RDS-PDP-WG) has been established to redefine the purpose of gTLD 
>>>> registration data and to consider how to safeguard this data. It is 
>>>> also tasked with proposing a model for gTLD registration directory 
>>>> services that will address accuracy, privacy, and access issues. "
>>>> If we are redefining the purpose of gTLD registration data, we 
>>>> should address that question first.
>>>> cheers Stephanie
>>>>
>>>> On 2016-03-19 11:18, Lisa Phifer wrote:
>>>>> Greetings all,
>>>>>
>>>>> Attached please find materials developed by the leadership team to 
>>>>> facilitate discussion during the next WG call. These materials 
>>>>> include:
>>>>>
>>>>> (1) _A summary table of all work plan changes proposed thus far._ 
>>>>> This serves as a consolidated record of all suggestions made to 
>>>>> date during WG calls, meetings, and on the email list. Staff will 
>>>>> continue to add any new suggestions made between now and the next 
>>>>> WG call as new rows to the end of this table. This table is a tool 
>>>>> to help all WG members easily recall and consider all of the 
>>>>> suggestions made by everyone, before attempting to agree upon 
>>>>> resolutions. In creating this table, we tried to extract and 
>>>>> accurately paraphrase changes and rationale from lengthier email 
>>>>> exchanges, but the WG's email archive ( 
>>>>> http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-rds-pdp-wg 
>>>>> <http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-rds-pdp-wg>) can be consulted 
>>>>> for all email message text in full. Italicized "Notes" have also 
>>>>> been included to provide linkage between suggestions and related 
>>>>> charter questions.
>>>>>
>>>>> (2) _A mind map of fundamental questions and sub-questions._ This 
>>>>> serves as a concise illustration of the fundamental questions and 
>>>>> sub-questions detailed in the Issue Report and Charter. This map 
>>>>> can be adjusted as the WG agrees upon refinements to questions 
>>>>> (including but not limited to sequencing) and adds new 
>>>>> subquestions, inter-dependencies, further inputs, and detailed 
>>>>> policies that should be "parked" for consideration during phases 
>>>>> 2/3. This map is a tool to help the WG better understand and reach 
>>>>> agreement on fundamental questions to be addressed in phase 1 by 
>>>>> providing an overall picture as well as an opportunity to start 
>>>>> thinking about additional sub-questions and whether there are 
>>>>> certain questions that need to be considered before being able to 
>>>>> address other questions, etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> (3) _A simple text listing of the questions and sub-questions in 
>>>>> the mind map_ - for those who may find a simple bullet list of 
>>>>> questions in text format more useful than a mind map.
>>>>>
>>>>> We hope that the WG will find these materials to be a helpful 
>>>>> starting point to facilitate further WG discussion on the phase 1 
>>>>> work plan.
>>>>>
>>>>> In addition, the leadership team is working on an annotated draft 
>>>>> of the work plan itself, to be distributed on Monday for use 
>>>>> during Tuesday's RDS PDP WG call.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>> Lisa
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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