[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Some reg'n data I think necessary (was Re: GNSO Next-Gen RDS PDP Working Group teleconference)

[Rod Rasmussen]

OK, good, we’re on the same page then.  I would also state that not all currently available whois information needs to be published publicly to handle all anti-abuse cases either, but a lot does need to be at least collected in order to enable access to relevant vetted parties depending on the use-case.  I may be biased, but the EWG report went into much of the details in these areas.

Cheers,

Rod

> On Mar 21, 2016, at 12:35 AM, Rob Golding <rob.golding at astutium.com> wrote:
> 
>>>> Some registrations
>>>> are the source of abuse against other networks,
>>> Never. Domains cant "abuse other networks".
>>> A 'service' can abuse, which may (or may not) somehow be related to a domain registration, but the domain itself is not capable of doing any abuse at all
>> This is semantic hocus-pocus.
> 
> It's a very important distinction, that I felt needed to be made.
> 
>> We publish lists of thousands of domains every day whose sole
>> “purpose” is to abuse
> 
> Whose purpose is to be somehow _involved_ with abuse, I'll accept
> 
>> If you want to be technically pure,
> 
> I think we should be if we're defining the RDS/WHOIS purpose
> 
> If our 1st question is what data is collected (and why) and our 2nd question is what subset of that should be available (and to whom/under what circustances) being 'accurate' needs to be of extreme importance.
> 
>> yes, some
>> person is using services tied to a domain name they registered to do
>> things like data exfiltration, DDoS, phishing, malware control, etc.
>> but the domains themselves are purely malicious based on the intent of
>> the registrant.
> 
> Not denying that (or that it is a problem which requires addressing).
> 
> Rob
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