[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Some reg'n data I think necessary (was Re: GNSO Next-Gen RDS PDP Working Group teleconference)

[James Galvin]

On 21 Mar 2016, at 15:13, Andrew Sullivan wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 09:55:48AM -0400, James Galvin wrote:
>> If the starting point is that the purpose of registration data is to 
>> support
>> the operation of a domain name on the Internet, then I’m supportive 
>> of your
>> list and the explanations.
>>
>> However, I do not believe this is the cornerstone purpose of 
>> registration
>> data.
>
> That would be bizarre.  These are domain names in the Internet's DNS.
> If the purpose is not to support their operation on the Internet (or,
> in a degenerate case, their non-operation on the Internet --
> i.e. defensive registration), what business does ICANN have with them
> at all?

It is only bizarre to your frame of reference.

While it is true that a good portion of the work that is conducted by 
the ICANN community is around domain names that are “on the 
Internet”, the fact is there is no requirement that a domain name be 
operational in any way.

It is a fair question for this group to ask whether that is the 
degenerative case or that is the baseline case.

The answer matters to answering the question, “what is the purpose of 
registration data?”

The operational data you describe is not necessary for domain names that 
are not operational.  The operation of a domain name could become one of 
many use cases to be considered separately.

Today there is a tendency to require the operational data, even for 
names that are not operational.  So we’ve setup circumstances where 
registrants have to “lie” or at least mislead, in order to buy a 
domain name that will not be operational.  This is similar to the desire 
for “privacy” and yet we require public contact information, or the 
desire to mitigate spam and yet we require the display of email 
addresses.

My point is simply that this distinction matters.  Personally I don’t 
have a strong opinion as to which way it goes, but it will affect how we 
specify if and when operational data is collected or required.  And then 
whether or not we have to talk about access to the data.

Jim