[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Dangers of public whois
Gomes, Chuck
cgomes at verisign.com
Tue Feb 14 13:54:02 UTC 2017
Thanks Theo for the reference article.
Lisa/Marika - Let's add this article to our resource list. This one is only 2 pages so it does not need to be summarized.
All - Whether you are a privacy advocate or not, I encourage you to read it. It's not a magic solution for the tasks in front of us but I think the principles might be helpful for us to apply as we work toward finding solutions.
Chuck
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Agreed Volker,
From a process view, you actually should adopt privacy by design and then expand and address the practical issues that keep showing up on this list.
https://www.ipc.on.ca/wp-content/uploads/Resources/7foundationalprinciples.pdf
Theo
Volker Greimann schreef op 2017-02-14 10:56 AM:
> I think this leads back to the initial question:
>
> What information _needs_ to be public to allow the functionality of
> the domain name? This is a question completely independant of what
> people can use the data for and whether it is beneficial to have this
> data public.
>
> For some of the thin data, the data has to be public to ensure the
> domain name works.
>
> But even then, if you register a domain name only to hold it as a nest
> egg for a rainy day and do not intend to activate it, even that need
> to publicise the most basic information like nameservers goes away.
>
> Volker
>
>
> Am 14.02.2017 um 02:23 schrieb Deacon, Alex:
>> All,
>>
>> So it seems the debate has progressed from “thin data” to “thick data”
>> (i.e. data that includes email). I know we are all super excited to
>> talk about “thick data” but I don’t think we are there yet (are we?
>> Hopefully I didn’t miss the party…)
>>
>> Focusing on thin data for the moment I struggle to understand how it
>> is personal data. I do not believe it is. As for the odd logic
>> proposed by some that the property of privacy is transitive (i.e.
>> Because “thin data” can be used to link/point/discover other data
>> then “thin data” equals “personal data”) I just don’t buy it.
>>
>> I don’t disagree with much of what was expressed in this thread,
>> however we must keep in mind that balance and proportionality are
>> important concepts in many (all?) data privacy laws. Any arguments
>> that imply that no such balance exists (or should exist) is
>> obstructive IMO.
>>
>> Alex
>>
>>
>> On 2/13/17, 5:42 AM, <gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org on behalf of
>> michele at blacknight.com> wrote:
>>
>> I agree and I know from how I’ve used various email addresses
>> that they are actively being harvested and spammed.
>> Also it’s one of the biggest sources of complaints we get
>> from our clients (registrants)
>> It’s definitely not an “edge case”.
>> Regards
>> Michele
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