[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Dangers of public whois

gtheo gtheo at xs4all.nl
Tue Feb 14 10:58:40 UTC 2017


Agreed Volker,

 From a process view, you actually should adopt privacy by design and 
then expand and address the practical issues that keep showing up on 
this list.
https://www.ipc.on.ca/wp-content/uploads/Resources/7foundationalprinciples.pdf

Theo


Volker Greimann schreef op 2017-02-14 10:56 AM:
> I think this leads back to the initial question:
> 
> What information _needs_ to be public to allow the functionality of
> the domain name? This is a question completely independant of what
> people can use the data for and whether it is beneficial to have this
> data public.
> 
> For some of the thin data, the data has to be public to ensure the
> domain name works.
> 
> But even then, if you register a domain name only to hold it as a nest
> egg for a rainy day and do not intend to activate it, even that need
> to publicise the most basic information like nameservers goes away.
> 
> Volker
> 
> 
> Am 14.02.2017 um 02:23 schrieb Deacon, Alex:
>> All,
>> 
>> So it seems the debate has progressed from “thin data” to “thick data” 
>> (i.e. data that includes email).  I know we are all super excited to 
>> talk about “thick data” but I don’t think we are there yet (are we?  
>> Hopefully I didn’t miss the party…)
>> 
>> Focusing on thin data for the moment I struggle to understand how it 
>> is personal data.  I do not believe it is.    As for the odd logic 
>> proposed by some that the property of privacy is transitive (i.e. 
>> Because “thin data” can be used to link/point/discover other data then 
>> “thin data” equals “personal data”) I just don’t buy it.
>> 
>> I don’t disagree with much of what was expressed in this thread, 
>> however we must keep in mind that balance and proportionality are 
>> important concepts in many (all?) data privacy laws.   Any arguments 
>> that imply that no such balance exists (or should exist) is 
>> obstructive IMO.
>> 
>> Alex
>> 
>> 
>> On 2/13/17, 5:42 AM,  <gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org on behalf of 
>> michele at blacknight.com> wrote:
>> 
>>      I agree and I know from how I’ve used various email addresses 
>> that they are actively being harvested and spammed.
>>           Also it’s one of the biggest sources of complaints we get 
>> from our clients (registrants)
>>           It’s definitely not an “edge case”.
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