[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Dangers of public whois

Wed Feb 15 09:47:15 UTC 2017

I am sorry you had that experience. Normally, if evidence is provided by 
the complainant that the whois is incorrect, most registrars will 
require that the registrant provides evidence that the updated data is 
correct, if only to avoid a follow-on complaint. If evidence suggests 
that the address is obviously and intentionally fake and the domain 
likely used in abuse, we may not even wait for the feedback of the 
customer before deactivating.

Best,

Volker

Am 14.02.2017 um 19:34 schrieb allison nixon:
> >>[SAH] Actually, there *are* requirements to provide valid data and 
> for registrars to perform validation processing:
>
> How do you expect toothless policy to work *on the Internet*? Seriously?
>
> worst that can happen when you put in fake whois data is that your 
> domain gets reported, you change "123 fake st" to "124 fake st", and 
> your registrar is satisfied because what more can they possibly do. I 
> know this because I went through this with an old sinkhole domain. 
> It's a total joke. Let's not pretend it's anything more than that.
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 14, 2017 at 1:31 PM, Hollenbeck, Scott 
> <shollenbeck at verisign.com <mailto:shollenbeck at verisign.com>> wrote:
>
>     *From:*gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org
>     <mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org>
>     [mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org
>     <mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org>] *On Behalf Of *allison
>     nixon
>     *Sent:* Tuesday, February 14, 2017 1:21 PM
>     *To:* Volker Greimann <vgreimann at key-systems.net
>     <mailto:vgreimann at key-systems.net>>
>     *Cc:* RDS PDP WG <gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org
>     <mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org>>
>     *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Dangers of public whois
>
>     >>to your first point: the right to privacy of ones own data may be
>     different where I live and where you live. Suffice it to say that
>     in our day-to-day business we get eough complaints from customers
>     who feel their rivacy has been violated either by our putting
>     their data out for everyone to see or by customers of ours who
>     provide services that do the same. And we both agree that whois
>     privacy will not protect you 100%.
>
>     So put your contact address as "123 fake st" and your phone number
>     as "555-555-5555". Make a fake email. No one is forcing you to
>     disclose more than you want to. And the only people who disclose
>     too much are doing so by mistake, not by coercion.
>
>     [SAH] Actually, there **are** requirements to provide valid data
>     and for registrars to perform validation processing:
>
>     https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/approved-with-specs-2013-09-17-en#whois-accuracy
>     <https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/approved-with-specs-2013-09-17-en#whois-accuracy>
>
>     Scott
>
>
>
>
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