[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Principle on Proportionality for "Thin Data"access

[John Bambenek]

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On May 31, 2017, at 21:01, Rob Golding <rob.golding at astutium.com> wrote:

>> but eliminating nameservers on the basis of privacy means the
>> registrars won't be able to disseminate it at all
> 
> Non Sequitur - nameservers are necessary for the domain to function, eliminating them from whois for whatever reason will not impede that function in the slightest, and even if they were to be classified as private data it does not mean they cannot be legitimately disseminated subject to authorisation and control.
> 

The same entity (the registry) has to make it available in DNS. If legally they cannot disseminate it in WHOIS, they cannot disseminate it in DNS. 

And if you think you can put authorization and control in every single DNS query, well I'd like to see you engineer that. 

>> and it will
>> literally break the Internet.
> 
> Repeating this utter nonsense ad nauseum will not ever make it correct

See above. 
> 
>> Your references don't change the fact of how DNS resolution works.
> 
> DNS doesn't use WHOIS at *ANY* stage, having or not having whois make zero difference to resolution.

No one said it did. 

> 
> Removing any/all data elements from whois, for example nameservers (and there are a lot of good reasons to do so) will in no way break anything about how the internet _functions_ because whois is not necessary for the functioning - constantly regurgitating absurdities about how the sky will fall isn't going make it true.

Constantly failing to read what we are ACTUALLY saying isn't getting us anywhere either. 

> 
> There's an article on how Microsoft think it actually works referenced earlier in the thread, I've not read it, but I very much doubt it says something as completely stupid as "gets data from whois"

Well, you'll pardon me if I don't take your opinions as gospel on articles you haven't read. 

> 
> Rob
> 
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