[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Principle on Proportionality for "Thin Data"access

[allison nixon]

>>Non Sequitur - nameservers are necessary for the domain to function,
eliminating them from whois for whatever reason will not impede that
function in the slightest, and even if they were to be classified as
private data it does not mean they cannot be legitimately disseminated
subject to authorisation and control.

The key word here is "on the basis of privacy". Name servers in WHOIS seem
to be mostly vestigial and can likely be dropped, but if the reason is
because of privacy, then that is crazy. That means the registrar can't
disseminate the data for the same reason it can't disseminate their
customers' credit card data- it's private. This breaks the Internet.

On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 10:01 PM, Rob Golding <rob.golding at astutium.com>
wrote:

> but eliminating nameservers on the basis of privacy means the
>> registrars won't be able to disseminate it at all
>>
>
> Non Sequitur - nameservers are necessary for the domain to function,
> eliminating them from whois for whatever reason will not impede that
> function in the slightest, and even if they were to be classified as
> private data it does not mean they cannot be legitimately disseminated
> subject to authorisation and control.
>
> and it will
>> literally break the Internet.
>>
>
> Repeating this utter nonsense ad nauseum will not ever make it correct.
>
> Your references don't change the fact of how DNS resolution works.
>>
>
> DNS doesn't use WHOIS at *ANY* stage, having or not having whois make zero
> difference to resolution.
>
> Removing any/all data elements from whois, for example nameservers (and
> there are a lot of good reasons to do so) will in no way break anything
> about how the internet _functions_ because whois is not necessary for the
> functioning - constantly regurgitating absurdities about how the sky will
> fall isn't going make it true.
>
> There's an article on how Microsoft think it actually works referenced
> earlier in the thread, I've not read it, but I very much doubt it says
> something as completely stupid as "gets data from whois"
>
> Rob
>
>
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