[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Principle on Proportionality for "Thin Data"access

Thu Jun 1 09:25:55 UTC 2017

Even if there if no PII in thin data (and I am leaning to that direction 
myself), if there really a need for all these fields to be public for 
the purpose of the operationality of the internet? I am thinking of the 
created, updated and expiration dates in particular since those are the 
ones leading to the most abusive use.

Am 31.05.2017 um 19:22 schrieb jonathan matkowsky:
> Thin Whois data doesn't have PII - We were saying that for 
> registration DETAILS that can be queried from the existence of a 
> domain name (which are NOT in thin Whois data), the way to deal with 
> that is informed consent. The thin Whois data is cross-referenced 
> against the domain name that was created. The domain itself exists. We 
> very much can say that there is no PII in thin Whois data for domain 
> names. DNS queries and SOA records are not part of this working group. 
> And the fact you can use the Whois PROTOCOL to query RIRs also has 
> nothing whatsoever to do with the Whois DATABASE, especially thin 
> Whois. We can still be privacy champions without turning everything 
> into a privacy concern, especially where none exists. The privacy 
> issues to the extent they do exist, are not within the subject matter 
> at issue. And therefore, there is simply no proportionality principle 
> that need be applied here.
>
>
> On Wed, 31 May 2017 at 20:10 Michael Peddemors <michael at linuxmagic.com 
> <mailto:michael at linuxmagic.com>> wrote:
>
>     On 17-05-31 10:07 AM, allison nixon wrote:
>     > the rest of it can't be. You can't put a DNS query behind a EULA. We
>     > can't pretend there are restrictions on this data.
>     >
>
>     We aren't discussing DNS or any other places that data is available as
>     part of this working group. Only the informed consent of data held in
>     whois thin data.
>
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