[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Purpose in accordance with Registry Agreement section 2.18

John Bambenek jcb at bambenekconsulting.com
Wed Jun 7 16:13:45 UTC 2017


+1. We are focused on the wrong privacy threats here. I agree. 

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John Bambenek

> On Jun 7, 2017, at 17:07, Neil Schwartzman <neil at cauce.org> wrote:
> 
> Heh.
> 
> John, I forget, isn’t China the place where one must go with government ID to register a domain? 
> 
> How does any of this discussion at hand protect a dissident? 
> 
> Would any dissident in their right mind trust whois privacy, even if whois is paper-thin, to protect their life with the weight of the Chinese (or other) government on the other side of the scale? 
> 
> Nothing can be done to redact whois information sufficiently to prevent governmental abuse.
> 
> If a dissident were to rely on current or future redaction, they are painfully naive, and likely residing in a work-camp in Tibet (or elsewhere), at best.
> 
> "Police in China can do whatever they want; after 81 days in arbitrary detention you clearly realise that they don't have to obey their own laws. In a society like this there is no negotiation, no discussion, except to tell you that power can crush you any time they want - not only you, your whole family and all people like you." -  Ai WeiWei
> 
>> On Jun 6, 2017, at 7:19 PM, John Bambenek via gnso-rds-pdp-wg <gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org> wrote:
>> 
>> For the
>> mythical Chinese dissident, we can even direct them to Security Without
>> Borders (an organization I'm tangentially part of) that can provide far
>> more in-depth discussion on how to protect their privacy from
>> nation-state adversaries (in fact, many of the people on this list
>> arguing for maintaining access to WHOIS data are ALSO helping people pro
>> bono who are facing real threats and consequences if their identities
>> were exposed).
> 
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