[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Against opposition to certain fields (was Re: 2013 RAA Data Elements)

[Greg Shatan]

Thank you, Andrew, for saying better and more authoritatively what I was
thinking as I read that email.  (In other words, +1)

Greg (S.)

On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 10:08 AM, Andrew Sullivan <ajs at anvilwalrusden.com>
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 04:22:46AM +0100, Rob Golding wrote:
> > Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.example-registrar.tld
> >
> > ^ This field only applies to com/net/jobs due to the "thin"
> > registry/registar setup, and will be "gone" shortly as part of the
> migration
> > to "thick", so should not be included in the MPDS
>
> I don't know that that's the case.  But it doesn't matter, because it
> _will_ be gone if the whois protocol dies, as it should.
>
> I argued previously that what is _really_ needed is a generic class of
> fields related to referrals for RDS protocol operation.  Among them
> would be this field, but only where it is needed.  I am struggling to
> get proposed language exactly right, obviously, since this idea seems
> not to have been taken up generally.
>
> > Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2010-10-08T00:44:59Z
> >
> > ^ This field only applies to com/net/jobs due to the "thin"
> > registry/registar setup, and will be "gone" shortly as part of the
> migration
> > to "thick", so should not be included in the MPDS
>
> I strongly disagree here.  Registrars and registries do not always
> agree about what "expired" means as far as the registrant is
> concerned, because of auto-renew and the way that registrars rely on
> the grace period.
>
> > Name Server: NS01.EXAMPLE-REGISTRAR.TLD10
> > Name Server: NS02.EXAMPLE-REGISTRAR.TLD
> >
> > ^ This information provides no _functional_ purpose
>
> That claim has been roundly shown false.  Once again: it is useful to
> know what the registry database thinks the (child) nameservers are as
> compared to what the (parent) nameservers think the (child)
> nameservers are, because sometimes there's a functional failure in
> registry processes.  This is the way to detect that.
>
> Best regards,
>
> A
>
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