[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] a suggestion for "purpose in detail"

[Volker Greimann]

We cannot negotiate on legal requirements. We will not leave the 
trenches if doing so will expose us to legal risks. You cannot vote an 
illegal practice into legality.

Everything else is on the table.


Am 22.03.2017 um 17:24 schrieb nathalie coupet via gnso-rds-pdp-wg:
> +1 I must say I'm a bit disillusioned by the entire process. This PDP should look like a negotiating table, instead it is more like a War of Trenches.
> If stakeholders are not motivated to negotiate, there is no sense of urgency and stakes for change are so low, then I wonder what we are doing here in the first place.
> Could every stakeholder state what their biggest fear is, and we could try to avoid their realization?
> Or maybe, in last resort, we should just vote for the best proposal and go home?
>
> Nathalie
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Mar 22, 2017, at 12:06 PM, Andrew Sullivan <ajs at anvilwalrusden.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 10:19:56AM -0500, John Bambenek wrote:
>>> Yes there is a difference which is why I am using both words. And that's why I am suggesting we talking about optional and maskable fields right up front as part of the requirements discussion not some ancillary discussion that happens later after all the decisions are already made.
>>>
>> I thought the WG had already decided on a different (multi-pass)
>> strategy, in which data collection itself was treated first with the
>> principle that, if there were some (legitmate, hand-wave hand-wave)
>> purpose then collection would be considered.  Later, the further
>> question of access to such collected items would be taken up.
>>
>> I don't really care which way we do this, but it seems to me that we
>> need to stop arguing about the way by which we'll reach a result and
>> start actually doing work in the direction of some result.  The
>> meta-discussions about process are wearing out contributors (well, at
>> least one contributor!) and creating the condition in which those who
>> want no changes at all will get their way by exhaustion.  If ICANN is
>> incapable of coming to terms with the deficiencies of whois (the
>> protocol) after all this time, it will be revealed to be ridiculous.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> A
>>
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