[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] another document that might be of interest

[Carlton Samuels]

In regard of contactability Volker I tend to agree with you. However, I
would also consider contactability within the larger scope; DNS resolution.
When any action undermines that objective, it speaks to an even bigger
scope, the security, stability and trustworthiness of the DNS is
undermined. Sensible and balanced policy prescriptives that enable those
objectives are in the best interest of all of us.

-Carlton


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On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 3:57 AM, Volker Greimann <vgreimann at key-systems.net>
wrote:

> Hi Andrew,
>
> no one is saying that it should be eliminated unless I missed it. The
> focus is rather on reforming it to provide the essential functions in a way
> that does not impact the basic rights of registrants and others. Limiting
> full access to LEAs is one such potential solution, rather simple to
> implement but with obvious drawbacks to parties that have so far relied on
> full access. Other methods may be better. Lets discuss them.
>
> Contactability can be achieved by many means that do not require
> publication of private details. And while contactibility is desireable,
> some participants in the internet may simply not want to be contactible.
> And that is reasonable too, as long as there is no problem (as
> contactability is strictly speaking only a necessity for resolving
> problems).
>
> When you look at number of instances where someone really needed to
> contact a domain owner for infrastructural reasons, how does that number
> compare with the total number of registrations? Is it a percentile, a
> thousandth, or even less than that?
>
>
>
>
> Am 24.10.2017 um 21:46 schrieb Andrew Sullivan:
>
>> Dear colleagues,
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 03:13:15PM -0400, Greg Shatan wrote:
>>
>> This is a false dichotomy for several reasons.
>>>
>> [and a bunch of other stuff with which I largely agree].  On top of
>> what Greg says, I think it a strange idea that registrants' interests
>> are best served by eliminating a tool to increase the reliability and
>> utility of domain name registrations.  Apart from (IMO parasitic)
>> domain name speculators, the whole point of registering a domain name
>> is to function on the Internet.  As I have now said too often to
>> count, the Internet is partly novel becase it offers distributed
>> operation and management among operators with no necessary prior
>> contractual relationship, or even one that is available transitively
>> through some other contract.  In order to get that kind of operation,
>> certain tools are a _required_ feature.  One of them is that, if you're
>> going to operate any infrastructure (and domain names are Internet
>> infrastructure), certain details about how to reach you are just going
>> to be required.
>>
>> We can certainly debate the best way to make that happen, and how much
>> of it is necessary.  But I don't think it is ever going to be
>> completely optional, and I think anyone who thinks it can be
>> completely optional or for that matter not in registrants' interests
>> needs to think a little harder about the operational and protocol
>> realities of the Internet as it exists now.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> A
>>
>>
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