[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Fwd: Equifax hack worse than previously thought: Biz kissed goodbye to card expiry dates, tax IDs etc

Tue Feb 13 16:58:33 UTC 2018

You are still looking at the wrong end of the horse. Privacy is not the 
choice, it is the default. Divulging data is the choice.

Am 13.02.2018 um 17:57 schrieb John Bambenek via gnso-rds-pdp-wg:
>
> Exactly right. As far as I'm concerned if we made privacy a free 
> choice, make the fields optional for all I care, and whatever they do 
> make is public... we have solved this problem.
>
> People who ACTUALLY protect society against privacy threats have the 
> data to do their jobs, consumers who want privacy have a free option 
> for it, and registrars can be in compliance with the law.
>
>
> On 2/13/2018 10:54 AM, DANIEL NANGHAKA wrote:
>> This is just an example but there is a lot of damage that can be 
>> caused with data being exposed. In our case we have phone numbers, 
>> addresses, emails which is required to verification.
>>
>> This takes us to issue of consent.
>>
>> On Tuesday, February 13, 2018, John Bambenek via gnso-rds-pdp-wg 
>> <gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org <mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org>> wrote:
>>
>>     Let's be honest here, we're talking about phone numbers and email
>>     addresses. The threat model is RADICALLY different with the data
>>     we are talking about.
>>
>>
>>     On 2/13/2018 10:45 AM, Stephanie Perrin wrote:
>>>
>>>     Undeterred by the fact that noone has responded to my last post,
>>>     I offer the following update to the Equifax breach to further
>>>     illustrate my point.  As many companies have found out, you
>>>     don't find out what you've got till it's gone.....a further
>>>     reason for data minimization and short retention periods.
>>>
>>>
>>>     	
>>>
>>>     	
>>>
>>>     	
>>>
>>>     	
>>>     To: 	
>>>
>>>
>>>     http://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/02/13/equifax_security_breach_bad/
>>>     <http://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/02/13/equifax_security_breach_bad/>
>>>
>>>
>>>     *Equifax hack worse than previously thought: Biz kissed goodbye
>>>     to card expiry dates, tax IDs etc*
>>>     Pwned credit-score biz quietly admits more info lost
>>>     By Iain Thomson in San Francisco 13 Feb 2018 at 02:13
>>>
>>>     Last year, Equifax admitted
>>>     https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/09/07/143m_american_equifax_customers_exposed/
>>>     <https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/09/07/143m_american_equifax_customers_exposed/>
>>>     hackers stole sensitive personal records on 145 million
>>>     Americans and hundreds of thousands in the UK
>>>     https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/10/10/equifax_uk_records_update/
>>>     <https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/10/10/equifax_uk_records_update/>
>>>     and Canada.
>>>
>>>     The outfit already said cyber-crooks "primarily" took names,
>>>     social security numbers, birth dates, home addresses,
>>>     credit-score dispute forms, and, in some instances, credit card
>>>     numbers and driver license numbers. Now the credit-checking
>>>     giant reckons the intruders snatched even more information from
>>>     its databases.
>>>
>>>     According to documents provided by Equifax to the US Senate
>>>     Banking Committee,
>>>     and _revealed this month by Senator Elizabeth Warren (D-MA)_,
>>>     https://apnews.com/2a51e3e5f9a945978df4ad96246b8ecc
>>>     <https://apnews.com/2a51e3e5f9a945978df4ad96246b8ecc>
>>>     the attackers also grabbed taxpayer identification numbers,
>>>     phone numbers, email addresses, and credit card expiry dates
>>>     belonging to some Equifax customers.
>>>
>>>     Like social security numbers, taxpayer ID numbers are useful for
>>>     fraudsters seeking to steal people's identities or their tax
>>>     rebates, and the expiry dates are similarly useful for online
>>>     crooks when linked with credit card numbers and other personal
>>>     information.
>>>
>>>
>>>     *Contradictory*
>>>
>>>     "As your company continues to issue incomplete, confusing and
>>>     contradictory statements and hide information from Congress and
>>>     the public, it is clear that five months after the breach was
>>>     publicly announced, Equifax has yet to answer this simple
>>>     question in full: what was the precise extent of the breach?"
>>>     Warren fumed in a missive late last week.
>>>     https://www.warren.senate.gov/?p=press_release&id=2317
>>>     <https://www.warren.senate.gov/?p=press_release&id=2317>
>>>
>>>     Equifax spokeswoman Meredith Griffanti stressed to The Register
>>>     today that the extra information snatched by hackers, as
>>>     revealed by Senator Warren, belonged to "some" Equifax
>>>     customers. In other words, not everyone had their phone numbers,
>>>     email addresses, and so on, slurped by crooks just some. How
>>>     much is some? Equifax isn't saying, hence Warren's (and everyone
>>>     else's) growing frustration.
>>>
>>>     The senator is a cosponsor of the _proposed Data Breach
>>>     Prevention and Compensation Act, _
>>>     https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/01/10/credit_reporting_agencies_fines/
>>>     <https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/01/10/credit_reporting_agencies_fines/>
>>>     which, if passed, would impose computer security regulations on
>>>     credit reporting agencies, with mandatory fines that would have
>>>     led to Equifax coughing up $1.5bn for its IT blunder.
>>>
>>>     Some regulation or punishment is obviously needed.
>>>
>>>     No senior Equifax executives were fired over the attack instead
>>>     the CEO, CSO and CIO were all allowed to retire with
>>>     multi-million dollar golden parachutes. The US government's
>>>     Consumer Financial Protection Bureau promised a full
>>>     investigation into the Equifax affair, and then gave up. On
>>>     February 7, an open letter [PDF]
>>>     https://www.schatz.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/CFPB%20Equifax%20Letter%202-7-18.pdf
>>>     <https://www.schatz.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/CFPB%20Equifax%20Letter%202-7-18.pdf>
>>>     from 32 senators to the bureau asked why the probe was dropped,
>>>     and the gang has yet to receive a response. ®
>>>
>>>
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>>     -- 
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>>
>>     John Bambenek
>>
>>
>>
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>> Regards
>> Nanghaka Daniel K.
>> Executive Director - ILICIT Africa / Chair - FOSSFA / Community Lead 
>> - ISOC Uganda Chapter / Geo4Africa Lead / Organising Team - FOSS4G2018
>> Mobile +256 772 898298 (Uganda)
>> Skype: daniel.nanghaka
>>
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