[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] The message to the community (was Re: Cancellation of RDS PDP WG meetings at ICANN62)

[Stephanie Perrin]

I agree.  It will be hard to get people to try again if we cannot be 
honest with ourselves and try to figure out how to fix the broken bits.

Stephanie Perrin

On 2018-05-13 22:50, Andrew Sullivan wrote:
> I am perfectly content for the leadership to express their individual 
> opinions that we failed.
>
> But indeed, in _my_ opinion, if we are incapable of admitting we 
> failed here, then the GNSO process is far too broken to be useful. If 
> we cannot admit our failure, no victory will ever be possible except 
> by accident.
>
> Best regards,
>
> A
>
> -- 
> Please excuse my clumbsy thums
> ----------
> On May 13, 2018 22:06:48 Rubens Kuhl <rubensk at nic.br> wrote:
>
>>> On 13 May 2018, at 21:54, Andrew Sullivan <ajs at anvilwalrusden.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Fri, May 11, 2018 at 01:00:29AM -0300, Rubens Kuhl wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Even saying so would require a consensus of the WG.
>>>
>>> Nonsense.  The leadership can say whatever they want "in their
>>> judgement" about the WG.
>>
>> That still doesn't constitute a WG position. It's basically their 
>> individual positions.
>>
>>
>>>  If that's not true, I don't understand what
>>> the meaning of the term "the leadership" is.
>>
>> In GNSO practices, shepherding instead of ruling.
>>
>>>
>>> Still, I would like to propose something more radical: that the WG
>>> actually does produce such a rough consensus.
>>
>> In GNSO lingo, consensus is what would be called rough consensus in 
>> IETF.
>>
>>
>> Rubens
>>
>>>
>>> A
>>>
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Andrew Sullivan
>>> ajs at anvilwalrusden.com
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