[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] The message to the community (was Re: Cancellation of RDS PDP WG meetings at ICANN62)

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To be honest, I feel like I've wasted a year+ on this and I question how
likely I'll be to participate in future efforts. The juice just isn't worth
the squeeze.

Michael Hammer

On Mon, May 14, 2018 at 8:56 AM, Stephanie Perrin <
stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca> wrote:

> I agree.  It will be hard to get people to try again if we cannot be
> honest with ourselves and try to figure out how to fix the broken bits.
>
> Stephanie Perrin
> On 2018-05-13 22:50, Andrew Sullivan wrote:
>
> I am perfectly content for the leadership to express their individual
> opinions that we failed.
>
> But indeed, in _my_ opinion, if we are incapable of admitting we failed
> here, then the GNSO process is far too broken to be useful. If we cannot
> admit our failure, no victory will ever be possible except by accident.
>
> Best regards,
>
> A
>
> --
> Please excuse my clumbsy thums
> ----------
> On May 13, 2018 22:06:48 Rubens Kuhl <rubensk at nic.br> <rubensk at nic.br>
> wrote:
>
> On 13 May 2018, at 21:54, Andrew Sullivan <ajs at anvilwalrusden.com>
> <ajs at anvilwalrusden.com> wrote:
>
> On Fri, May 11, 2018 at 01:00:29AM -0300, Rubens Kuhl wrote:
>
>
> Even saying so would require a consensus of the WG.
>
>
> Nonsense.  The leadership can say whatever they want "in their
> judgement" about the WG.
>
>
> That still doesn't constitute a WG position. It's basically their
> individual positions.
>
>
>  If that's not true, I don't understand what
> the meaning of the term "the leadership" is.
>
>
> In GNSO practices, shepherding instead of ruling.
>
>
> Still, I would like to propose something more radical: that the WG
> actually does produce such a rough consensus.
>
>
> In GNSO lingo, consensus is what would be called rough consensus in IETF.
>
>
> Rubens
>
>
> A
>
>
> --
> Andrew Sullivan
> ajs at anvilwalrusden.com
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