[Gnso-ssc] [Ext] Re: Deadline - SubPro ODP Liaison poll - Complete by Friday, 8 October at 23:59 UTC
Tatiana Tropina
tatiana.tropina at gmail.com
Thu Oct 7 09:34:39 UTC 2021
Dear all,
I can confirm everything that Emily said in her email. I would also like to
note again that the ODP Liaison role is a role with a very limited mandate,
not a decision-making role.
Warm regards,
Tatiana
On Thu, 7 Oct 2021 at 08:46, Emily Barabas via Gnso-ssc <gnso-ssc at icann.org>
wrote:
> Hi Craig,
>
>
>
> Thanks for your careful review of the EOIs and for your question. This is
> an issue that was discussed during the September Council meeting and also
> briefly came up during the last SSC call, but it may be something that the
> SSC wants to discuss further, as well.
>
>
>
> During the September meeting, Council leadership asked the Council if
> members felt that any specific ICANN volunteer roles should be considered a
> conflict with the ODP Liaison role. The Council did not come to any
> conclusion that it should provide guidance to the SSC that a specific role
> should be considered incompatible with the ODP liaison role.
>
>
>
> In initial discussions, the SSC did not come to any conclusions that a
> specific role should be considered incompatible with the ODP liaison role.
>
>
>
> If, upon further discussion, SSC members come to agreement that a
> particular role is not compatible with the ODP liaison role, it is
> important that the SSC provides a clear rationale to the GNSO Council
> explaining how it came to this conclusion.
>
>
>
> I’d also invite Tanya to weigh in if she has any further perspective she
> would like to share from the GNSO Council perspective.
>
>
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Julie and Emily
>
>
>
> *From: *Craig Schwartz <craig at ftld.com>
> *Date: *Wednesday, 6 October 2021 at 22:53
> *To: *Emily Barabas <emily.barabas at icann.org>
> *Cc: *"gnso-ssc at icann.org" <gnso-ssc at icann.org>
> *Subject: *[Ext] Re: Deadline - SubPro ODP Liaison poll - Complete by
> Friday, 8 October at 23:59 UTC
>
>
>
> Dear Emily and Julie,
>
>
>
> I have a couple of questions having closely read the candidates EOIs and I
> apologize for not catching this sooner. As noted in Jeff Neuman's EOI,
> there seems to be an outstanding question as to whether his serving in two
> GNSO Council Liaison roles at the same time would be viewed as a conflict.
> Do you know if a decision was ever made about this? Notwithstanding any
> decision, Jeff made it clear he prefers the ODP SubPro role and would step
> down from his current liaison role to the GAC.
>
>
>
> Noting the above, the same question could be asked about Sebastien Ducos
> as he currently stands to become the next GNSO Council Vice Chair (as he's
> the sole candidate). Could he serve in both roles or would it be viewed as
> a conflict? He did not state a preference for either role in the EOI and
> likely does not view serving in both roles as a conflict.
>
>
>
> Though Cheryl Langdon-Orr is the ALAC Liaison to the GNSO Council, it does
> not appear there would be a conflict, but it would be helpful to have
> clarity on this.
>
>
>
> Thanks very much.
>
>
>
> Craig Schwartz
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> On Wed, Oct 6, 2021 at 2:47 AM Emily Barabas <emily.barabas at icann.org>
> wrote:
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> Dear all,
>
>
>
> Seeing no objections to the proposal below, *the poll deadline will be
> Friday, 8 October at 23:59 UTC*. Thanks everyone for your flexibility.
>
>
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Julie and Emily
>
>
>
> *From: *Emily Barabas <emily.barabas at icann.org>
> *Date: *Tuesday, 5 October 2021 at 09:03
> *To: *Craig Schwartz <craig at ftld.com>, Marie Pattullo - AIM <
> marie.pattullo at aim.be>
> *Cc: *"gnso-ssc at icann.org" <gnso-ssc at icann.org>
> *Subject: *Re: [Ext] Re: [Gnso-ssc] Deadline extended - SubPro ODP
> Liaison poll - Complete by Monday, 11 October at 18:00 UTC
>
>
>
> Hello all,
>
>
> As a compromise, would it work for everyone if we moved the poll deadline
> to this Friday, 8 October at 23:59 UTC?
>
>
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Julie and Emily
>
>
>
> *From: *Craig Schwartz <craig at ftld.com>
> *Date: *Monday, 4 October 2021 at 19:55
> *To: *Marie Pattullo - AIM <marie.pattullo at aim.be>
> *Cc: *Emily Barabas <emily.barabas at icann.org>, "gnso-ssc at icann.org" <
> gnso-ssc at icann.org>
> *Subject: *[Ext] Re: [Gnso-ssc] Deadline extended - SubPro ODP Liaison
> poll - Complete by Monday, 11 October at 18:00 UTC
>
>
>
> Thanks Marie and let's see what others think.
>
>
>
> Craig Schwartz
>
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> On Mon, Oct 4, 2021 at 1:53 PM Marie Pattullo - AIM <marie.pattullo at aim.be>
> wrote:
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> Thanks Craig.
>
>
>
> From my side I can do it (hopefully) on Friday or definitely at the
> weekend, but by Thursday 22:00 UTC (my midnight) is impossible due to other
> work commitments, sorry.
>
>
>
> Kind regards
>
>
>
> Marie
>
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>
> *From:* Gnso-ssc <gnso-ssc-bounces at icann.org> *On Behalf Of *Craig
> Schwartz via Gnso-ssc
> *Sent:* Monday, 4 October 2021 19:47
> *To:* Emily Barabas <emily.barabas at icann.org>
> *Cc:* gnso-ssc at icann.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Gnso-ssc] Deadline extended - SubPro ODP Liaison poll -
> Complete by Monday, 11 October at 18:00 UTC
>
>
>
> Hi All,
>
>
>
> Thank you for the update. My preference would be for the poll to be
> completed by this Thursday or Friday, and the reasons for this are:
>
> 1. Given two of the candidates are active members of the RySG, I may want
> to consult with the RySG's Ex-Comm. on the poll's results. If the poll
> doesn't close until the 11th and we meet on the 12th, there won't be time
> for any consultation that may be desired.
>
> 2. For many in the United States, Monday October 11th is a holiday and
> this may pose a coordination challenge.
>
>
>
> Thanks for taking this under consideration.
>
>
>
> Craig Schwartz
>
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> On Mon, Oct 4, 2021 at 9:56 AM Emily Barabas via Gnso-ssc <
> gnso-ssc at icann.org> wrote:
>
> Dear SSC members,
>
>
>
> We now have our next SSC meeting on the calendar, scheduled for Tuesday,
> 12 October at 18:00 UTC. Therefore, we will *extend the poll deadline to
> Monday, 11 October at 18:00 UTC. *Staff will send around the results
> right after it closes so everyone has time to review the responses before
> Tuesday’s meeting.
>
>
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Julie and Emily
>
>
>
> *From: *Emily Barabas <emily.barabas at icann.org>
> *Date: *Thursday, 30 September 2021 at 21:37
> *To: *"gnso-ssc at icann.org" <gnso-ssc at icann.org>
> *Subject: *Poll open - SubPro ODP Liaison - Deadline Wednesday 6 October
> at 11:00 UTC
>
>
>
> Dear SSC members,
>
>
>
> Seeing no additional input on the format of the draft poll, staff has gone
> ahead and opened the poll: https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/TZXL5W5
> [surveymonkey.com]
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.surveymonkey.com/r/TZXL5W5__;!!PtGJab4!pVU-zIJKJnrj59p55IVk222wUp8_TIfERSrxsUqmpDBCMWLWkRj0GCAI6O8r0o1McAQ0KKINFQ$>
> .
>
>
>
> We are still determining the best date and time for the next meeting. As a
> reminder, please fill out the doodle here [doodle.com]
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/doodle.com/poll/qxv64b2i3z357sib?utm_source=poll&utm_medium=link__;!!PtGJab4!pVU-zIJKJnrj59p55IVk222wUp8_TIfERSrxsUqmpDBCMWLWkRj0GCAI6O8r0o1McASaVetAjA$>.
> The first possible slot in the doodle poll is Wednesday 6 October at 12:00
> UTC, so the tentative *deadline for the poll is Wednesday 6 October at
> 11:00 UTC. *We will likely be able to extend this deadline once we have
> the next call scheduled, so that the poll closes shortly before the call.
>
>
>
> If you have any questions or concerns, please share them on list.
>
>
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Julie and Emily
>
>
>
> *From: *Gnso-ssc <gnso-ssc-bounces at icann.org> on behalf of Julie Hedlund
> via Gnso-ssc <gnso-ssc at icann.org>
> *Reply to: *Julie Hedlund <julie.hedlund at icann.org>
> *Date: *Wednesday, 29 September 2021 at 21:02
> *To: *"gnso-ssc at icann.org" <gnso-ssc at icann.org>
> *Subject: *[Gnso-ssc] Notes & Action Items - SSC meeting - 29 September
> 2021 at 18:00 UTC
>
>
>
> Dear SSC members,
>
>
>
> Please find below notes and action items from today’s call on Wednesday,
> 29 September 2021 at 18:00 UTC.
>
>
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Julie
>
>
>
> Julie Hedlund, Policy Director
>
>
>
> *Action Items:*
>
>
>
> 1. *Staff will update the draft poll to allow optional comments after
> each question that asks them to rank candidates (COMPLETED). See the
> updated poll at:
> https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/Preview/?sm=4bILN8u1cNTLCwI9o0Juve_2BMYmrqgeCkxqEKuFXXZOzEyIUH_2FUDIuQCF_2FYfkBkdW
> [surveymonkey.com]
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.surveymonkey.com/r/Preview/?sm=4bILN8u1cNTLCwI9o0Juve_2BMYmrqgeCkxqEKuFXXZOzEyIUH_2FUDIuQCF_2FYfkBkdW__;!!PtGJab4!vT5KEb34scL4KUnExwjyKmxh_zeLUc_LLU1GgJPfKfWOe_Qa-gY03L715uMwNaH-TIN1RfYuCA$>*
> 2. *SSC members will review the format of the poll only and provide
> comments, if any, not later than 24 hours after the 29 Sept meeting – by
> 1900 UTC on Thursday, 30 Sept.*
> 3. *Once the 24-hour period for SSC members to provide feedback on the
> format of the poll has closed and SSC members approve the format, staff
> will open the poll for SSC members; it will close shortly before the next
> meeting.*
> 4. *Staff will send a Doodle poll to schedule the next meeting.*
> 5. *Staff will gather the results for discussion at the next meeting.*
>
>
>
> *Notes: *
>
>
>
> *Proposed Agenda*
>
> *SSC Meeting – 29 September 2021*
>
>
>
> 1. Roll Call & SOI updates
>
>
>
> 2. Welcome from the Chair
>
>
>
> - Reminder that some terms are coming to an end for SSC members at the
> Annual General Meeting (ICANN72) – new appointments are due 3 weeks after
> the AGM. Please coordinate with your appointing organization. Staff will
> send a follow-up note soon.
>
>
>
> 3. Overview of the assignment and next steps – selection of GNSO Council
> Liaison to the SubPro ODP
>
>
>
> - Please see the assignment at:
> https://community.icann.org/display/GSSC/GNSO+Council+Liaison+to+SubPro+ODP+-+2021
> on the wiki.
> - Overview of the Liaison role to the SubPro ODP:
>
>
> - ODP is a fairly new tool. Only the second one to be initiated after
> the SSAD ODP.
> - Goal is to have more tools to support the Board in its
> consideration of the policy recommendation.
> - Sept 12th Board directed ICANN to initiate an ODP, although there
> had already been discussion on the ODP.
> - See SubPro ODP: https://www.icann.org/subpro-odp
> - Meant to be a conduit between the ODP and GNSO – to the extent
> that ICANN Org has questions the liaison channels them back to Council.
>
> *From the wiki:*
>
> *Responsibilities*
>
> - Serve as the primary contact between the ODP team and the GNSO
> Council to facilitate and streamline communications on identified issues
> that pertain to the intent or substance of the policy recommendations.
> Convey relevant information from the GNSO Council to the ODP team and vice
> versa.
> - Provide relevant background information to ICANN org upon request,
> in consultation with the GNSO Council, as needed.
> - Ensure all communications between the liaison and the ODP team are
> fully transparent.
>
> *Desired Skills and Experience*
>
> Criteria used to evaluate candidates:
>
> - Understanding of the specific and limited nature of the role and
> ability to perform liaison duties with the necessary restraint.
> - Previous involvement with the SubPro PDP and in-depth knowledge of
> the subject matter.
> - Demonstrated ability to act in a neutral manner, especially when
> there are divergent views within the GNSO.
> - Familiarity with both the dynamics and the operations of the GNSO
> Council.
> - Availability to devote the necessary time to this effort, including
> attending meetings with the ODP team upon request and providing regular
> updates to the Council.
>
>
>
> *Discussion*:
>
> - Question: Some of those applying for the liaison are Council
> members, who also would be reviewing policy. Thought that might be a
> conflict of interest. Answer: Shouldn’t be any constraints on multiple
> roles. Also, the Council has already approved the
> recommendations/policies.
> - Good question (above): It is not in the requirements and the Council
> is not providing guidance on conflicts, but this role is very limited. The
> role of the liaison does not serve on the ODP and does not deliberate. The
> liaison is a channel between the ODP and the Council.
> - This implementation is very critical; we also have to keep in mind
> the amount of work required on this task. Consider what the candidates
> bring to this role, specifically with respect to the SubPro.
> - Important to assess capacity and candidates skills and experience,
> but note that the ODP is a pre-implementation process. The liaison will
> have nothing to do with implementation.
> - The role is expected to require about 5 hours of work a month.
> - We might want to take into consideration how GNSO operates when
> looking at the individuals.
> - Important to note that this is a very narrow and specific role.
> This is not part of the implementation. The ODP is about doing an analysis
> to help the Board make its decision.
> - The liaison is the go-between to help bring questions from ICANN Org
> to the GNSO Council.
> - Note re: conflicts of interest – the EOI includes a question about
> interests in the SubPro, as an extension of the Statement of Interest from
> the GNSO Operating Procedures. Generally speaking in the GNSO community
> members wear a lot of different hats. Disclosure of interests generally
> does not prevent community members from participating. If the SSC sees a
> conflict of interest for performing the role, they should be very clear in
> the rationale.
>
>
>
> *Poll to Evaluate Candidates*:
>
> - Question: Will it be ok to have place for comments after each of the
> rankings? Answer: Yes. Staff can add this as an option.
> - If SSC members think there is enough information to answer a
> question, they could mark it as “N/A” and provide a rationale in the
> comments box.
> - Staff will update the poll accordingly and circulate the revised
> draft for review.
>
>
>
> *ACTION ITEMS:*
>
> 1. *Staff will update the draft poll to allow optional comments after
> each question that asks them to rank candidates (COMPLETED). See the
> updated poll at:
> https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/Preview/?sm=4bILN8u1cNTLCwI9o0Juve_2BMYmrqgeCkxqEKuFXXZOzEyIUH_2FUDIuQCF_2FYfkBkdW
> [surveymonkey.com]
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.surveymonkey.com/r/Preview/?sm=4bILN8u1cNTLCwI9o0Juve_2BMYmrqgeCkxqEKuFXXZOzEyIUH_2FUDIuQCF_2FYfkBkdW__;!!PtGJab4!vT5KEb34scL4KUnExwjyKmxh_zeLUc_LLU1GgJPfKfWOe_Qa-gY03L715uMwNaH-TIN1RfYuCA$>*
> 2. *SSC members review the format of the poll only and provide
> comments, if any, not later than 24 hours after the 29 Sept meeting – by
> 1900 UTC on Thursday, 30 Sept.*
> 3. *Once the 24-hour period for SSC members to provide feedback on the
> format of the poll has closed and SSC members approve the format, staff
> will open the poll for SSC members; it will close shortly before the next
> meeting.*
> 4. *Staff will send a Doodle poll to schedule the next meeting.*
> 5. *Staff will gather the results for discussion at the next meeting.*
>
>
>
> 4. AOB: None.
>
>
>
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