[Gnso-ssc] [Ext] Re: Deadline - SubPro ODP Liaison poll - Complete by Friday, 8 October at 23:59 UTC
Craig Schwartz
craig at ftld.com
Thu Oct 7 11:27:42 UTC 2021
Hi Julie and Emily,
If the Council did not come to any conclusion that it should provide guidance to the SSC regarding incompatibility of roles, then from my perspective it would be beyond the SSC’s purview to decide otherwise. I apologize for not recalling, as you noted, the SSC covering this matter in initial discussions.
I am satisfied and will complete the poll this week.
Sincerely,
Craig
Sent from my iPad
> On Oct 7, 2021, at 2:46 AM, Emily Barabas <emily.barabas at icann.org> wrote:
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> Hi Craig,
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> Thanks for your careful review of the EOIs and for your question. This is an issue that was discussed during the September Council meeting and also briefly came up during the last SSC call, but it may be something that the SSC wants to discuss further, as well.
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> During the September meeting, Council leadership asked the Council if members felt that any specific ICANN volunteer roles should be considered a conflict with the ODP Liaison role. The Council did not come to any conclusion that it should provide guidance to the SSC that a specific role should be considered incompatible with the ODP liaison role.
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> In initial discussions, the SSC did not come to any conclusions that a specific role should be considered incompatible with the ODP liaison role.
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> If, upon further discussion, SSC members come to agreement that a particular role is not compatible with the ODP liaison role, it is important that the SSC provides a clear rationale to the GNSO Council explaining how it came to this conclusion.
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> I’d also invite Tanya to weigh in if she has any further perspective she would like to share from the GNSO Council perspective.
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> Kind regards,
> Julie and Emily
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> From: Craig Schwartz <craig at ftld.com>
> Date: Wednesday, 6 October 2021 at 22:53
> To: Emily Barabas <emily.barabas at icann.org>
> Cc: "gnso-ssc at icann.org" <gnso-ssc at icann.org>
> Subject: [Ext] Re: Deadline - SubPro ODP Liaison poll - Complete by Friday, 8 October at 23:59 UTC
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> Dear Emily and Julie,
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> I have a couple of questions having closely read the candidates EOIs and I apologize for not catching this sooner. As noted in Jeff Neuman's EOI, there seems to be an outstanding question as to whether his serving in two GNSO Council Liaison roles at the same time would be viewed as a conflict. Do you know if a decision was ever made about this? Notwithstanding any decision, Jeff made it clear he prefers the ODP SubPro role and would step down from his current liaison role to the GAC.
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> Noting the above, the same question could be asked about Sebastien Ducos as he currently stands to become the next GNSO Council Vice Chair (as he's the sole candidate). Could he serve in both roles or would it be viewed as a conflict? He did not state a preference for either role in the EOI and likely does not view serving in both roles as a conflict.
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> Though Cheryl Langdon-Orr is the ALAC Liaison to the GNSO Council, it does not appear there would be a conflict, but it would be helpful to have clarity on this.
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> Thanks very much.
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> Craig Schwartz
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> On Wed, Oct 6, 2021 at 2:47 AM Emily Barabas <emily.barabas at icann.org> wrote:
> Dear all,
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> Seeing no objections to the proposal below, the poll deadline will be Friday, 8 October at 23:59 UTC. Thanks everyone for your flexibility.
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> Kind regards,
> Julie and Emily
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> From: Emily Barabas <emily.barabas at icann.org>
> Date: Tuesday, 5 October 2021 at 09:03
> To: Craig Schwartz <craig at ftld.com>, Marie Pattullo - AIM <marie.pattullo at aim.be>
> Cc: "gnso-ssc at icann.org" <gnso-ssc at icann.org>
> Subject: Re: [Ext] Re: [Gnso-ssc] Deadline extended - SubPro ODP Liaison poll - Complete by Monday, 11 October at 18:00 UTC
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> Hello all,
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> As a compromise, would it work for everyone if we moved the poll deadline to this Friday, 8 October at 23:59 UTC?
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> Kind regards,
> Julie and Emily
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> From: Craig Schwartz <craig at ftld.com>
> Date: Monday, 4 October 2021 at 19:55
> To: Marie Pattullo - AIM <marie.pattullo at aim.be>
> Cc: Emily Barabas <emily.barabas at icann.org>, "gnso-ssc at icann.org" <gnso-ssc at icann.org>
> Subject: [Ext] Re: [Gnso-ssc] Deadline extended - SubPro ODP Liaison poll - Complete by Monday, 11 October at 18:00 UTC
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> Thanks Marie and let's see what others think.
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> Craig Schwartz
> Managing Director
> fTLD Registry [ftld.com] - .BANK [register.bank] | .INSURANCE [register.insurance]
> Office: +1 202 236 1154
> Skype: craig-schwartz
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> On Mon, Oct 4, 2021 at 1:53 PM Marie Pattullo - AIM <marie.pattullo at aim.be> wrote:
> Thanks Craig.
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> From my side I can do it (hopefully) on Friday or definitely at the weekend, but by Thursday 22:00 UTC (my midnight) is impossible due to other work commitments, sorry.
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> Kind regards
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> Marie
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> From: Gnso-ssc <gnso-ssc-bounces at icann.org> On Behalf Of Craig Schwartz via Gnso-ssc
> Sent: Monday, 4 October 2021 19:47
> To: Emily Barabas <emily.barabas at icann.org>
> Cc: gnso-ssc at icann.org
> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ssc] Deadline extended - SubPro ODP Liaison poll - Complete by Monday, 11 October at 18:00 UTC
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> Hi All,
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> Thank you for the update. My preference would be for the poll to be completed by this Thursday or Friday, and the reasons for this are:
> 1. Given two of the candidates are active members of the RySG, I may want to consult with the RySG's Ex-Comm. on the poll's results. If the poll doesn't close until the 11th and we meet on the 12th, there won't be time for any consultation that may be desired.
> 2. For many in the United States, Monday October 11th is a holiday and this may pose a coordination challenge.
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> Thanks for taking this under consideration.
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> Craig Schwartz
> Managing Director
> fTLD Registry [ftld.com] - .BANK [register.bank] | .INSURANCE [register.insurance]
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> On Mon, Oct 4, 2021 at 9:56 AM Emily Barabas via Gnso-ssc <gnso-ssc at icann.org> wrote:
> Dear SSC members,
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> We now have our next SSC meeting on the calendar, scheduled for Tuesday, 12 October at 18:00 UTC. Therefore, we will extend the poll deadline to Monday, 11 October at 18:00 UTC. Staff will send around the results right after it closes so everyone has time to review the responses before Tuesday’s meeting.
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> Kind regards,
> Julie and Emily
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> From: Emily Barabas <emily.barabas at icann.org>
> Date: Thursday, 30 September 2021 at 21:37
> To: "gnso-ssc at icann.org" <gnso-ssc at icann.org>
> Subject: Poll open - SubPro ODP Liaison - Deadline Wednesday 6 October at 11:00 UTC
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> Dear SSC members,
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> Seeing no additional input on the format of the draft poll, staff has gone ahead and opened the poll: https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/TZXL5W5 [surveymonkey.com].
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> We are still determining the best date and time for the next meeting. As a reminder, please fill out the doodle here [doodle.com]. The first possible slot in the doodle poll is Wednesday 6 October at 12:00 UTC, so the tentative deadline for the poll is Wednesday 6 October at 11:00 UTC. We will likely be able to extend this deadline once we have the next call scheduled, so that the poll closes shortly before the call.
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> If you have any questions or concerns, please share them on list.
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> Kind regards,
> Julie and Emily
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> From: Gnso-ssc <gnso-ssc-bounces at icann.org> on behalf of Julie Hedlund via Gnso-ssc <gnso-ssc at icann.org>
> Reply to: Julie Hedlund <julie.hedlund at icann.org>
> Date: Wednesday, 29 September 2021 at 21:02
> To: "gnso-ssc at icann.org" <gnso-ssc at icann.org>
> Subject: [Gnso-ssc] Notes & Action Items - SSC meeting - 29 September 2021 at 18:00 UTC
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> Dear SSC members,
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> Please find below notes and action items from today’s call on Wednesday, 29 September 2021 at 18:00 UTC.
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> Kind regards,
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> Julie
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> Julie Hedlund, Policy Director
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> Action Items:
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> Staff will update the draft poll to allow optional comments after each question that asks them to rank candidates (COMPLETED). See the updated poll at: https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/Preview/?sm=4bILN8u1cNTLCwI9o0Juve_2BMYmrqgeCkxqEKuFXXZOzEyIUH_2FUDIuQCF_2FYfkBkdW [surveymonkey.com]
> SSC members will review the format of the poll only and provide comments, if any, not later than 24 hours after the 29 Sept meeting – by 1900 UTC on Thursday, 30 Sept.
> Once the 24-hour period for SSC members to provide feedback on the format of the poll has closed and SSC members approve the format, staff will open the poll for SSC members; it will close shortly before the next meeting.
> Staff will send a Doodle poll to schedule the next meeting.
> Staff will gather the results for discussion at the next meeting.
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> Notes:
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> Proposed Agenda
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> SSC Meeting – 29 September 2021
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> 1. Roll Call & SOI updates
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> 2. Welcome from the Chair
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> Reminder that some terms are coming to an end for SSC members at the Annual General Meeting (ICANN72) – new appointments are due 3 weeks after the AGM. Please coordinate with your appointing organization. Staff will send a follow-up note soon.
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> 3. Overview of the assignment and next steps – selection of GNSO Council Liaison to the SubPro ODP
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> Please see the assignment at: https://community.icann.org/display/GSSC/GNSO+Council+Liaison+to+SubPro+ODP+-+2021 on the wiki.
> Overview of the Liaison role to the SubPro ODP:
> ODP is a fairly new tool. Only the second one to be initiated after the SSAD ODP.
> Goal is to have more tools to support the Board in its consideration of the policy recommendation.
> Sept 12th Board directed ICANN to initiate an ODP, although there had already been discussion on the ODP.
> See SubPro ODP: https://www.icann.org/subpro-odp
> Meant to be a conduit between the ODP and GNSO – to the extent that ICANN Org has questions the liaison channels them back to Council.
> From the wiki:
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> Responsibilities
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> Serve as the primary contact between the ODP team and the GNSO Council to facilitate and streamline communications on identified issues that pertain to the intent or substance of the policy recommendations. Convey relevant information from the GNSO Council to the ODP team and vice versa.
> Provide relevant background information to ICANN org upon request, in consultation with the GNSO Council, as needed.
> Ensure all communications between the liaison and the ODP team are fully transparent.
> Desired Skills and Experience
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> Criteria used to evaluate candidates:
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> Understanding of the specific and limited nature of the role and ability to perform liaison duties with the necessary restraint.
> Previous involvement with the SubPro PDP and in-depth knowledge of the subject matter.
> Demonstrated ability to act in a neutral manner, especially when there are divergent views within the GNSO.
> Familiarity with both the dynamics and the operations of the GNSO Council.
> Availability to devote the necessary time to this effort, including attending meetings with the ODP team upon request and providing regular updates to the Council.
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> Discussion:
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> Question: Some of those applying for the liaison are Council members, who also would be reviewing policy. Thought that might be a conflict of interest. Answer: Shouldn’t be any constraints on multiple roles. Also, the Council has already approved the recommendations/policies.
> Good question (above): It is not in the requirements and the Council is not providing guidance on conflicts, but this role is very limited. The role of the liaison does not serve on the ODP and does not deliberate. The liaison is a channel between the ODP and the Council.
> This implementation is very critical; we also have to keep in mind the amount of work required on this task. Consider what the candidates bring to this role, specifically with respect to the SubPro.
> Important to assess capacity and candidates skills and experience, but note that the ODP is a pre-implementation process. The liaison will have nothing to do with implementation.
> The role is expected to require about 5 hours of work a month.
> We might want to take into consideration how GNSO operates when looking at the individuals.
> Important to note that this is a very narrow and specific role. This is not part of the implementation. The ODP is about doing an analysis to help the Board make its decision.
> The liaison is the go-between to help bring questions from ICANN Org to the GNSO Council.
> Note re: conflicts of interest – the EOI includes a question about interests in the SubPro, as an extension of the Statement of Interest from the GNSO Operating Procedures. Generally speaking in the GNSO community members wear a lot of different hats. Disclosure of interests generally does not prevent community members from participating. If the SSC sees a conflict of interest for performing the role, they should be very clear in the rationale.
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> Poll to Evaluate Candidates:
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> Question: Will it be ok to have place for comments after each of the rankings? Answer: Yes. Staff can add this as an option.
> If SSC members think there is enough information to answer a question, they could mark it as “N/A” and provide a rationale in the comments box.
> Staff will update the poll accordingly and circulate the revised draft for review.
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> ACTION ITEMS:
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> Staff will update the draft poll to allow optional comments after each question that asks them to rank candidates (COMPLETED). See the updated poll at: https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/Preview/?sm=4bILN8u1cNTLCwI9o0Juve_2BMYmrqgeCkxqEKuFXXZOzEyIUH_2FUDIuQCF_2FYfkBkdW [surveymonkey.com]
> SSC members review the format of the poll only and provide comments, if any, not later than 24 hours after the 29 Sept meeting – by 1900 UTC on Thursday, 30 Sept.
> Once the 24-hour period for SSC members to provide feedback on the format of the poll has closed and SSC members approve the format, staff will open the poll for SSC members; it will close shortly before the next meeting.
> Staff will send a Doodle poll to schedule the next meeting.
> Staff will gather the results for discussion at the next meeting.
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> 4. AOB: None.
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