[Gnso-subteam0b-policyimpl] Updated version for review

Tue Feb 25 23:53:11 UTC 2014

Thanks Marika.  This looks good to me.  The only other thing we could do
that I can think of is to identify which core value is referenced in the
added bullet in section B but I can live with it as it is.

Chuck

From: Marika Konings [mailto:marika.konings at icann.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2014 4:57 AM
To: Gomes, Chuck; Nic Steinbach
Cc: gnso-subteam0b-policyimpl at icann.org
Subject: Updated version for review

Per Nic's and Chuck's suggestions, please find attached a revised version of
the proposed working principles document. If you have any additional
comments / edits, please share these by Wednesday 26 February at the latest.

Best regards,

Marika

From: <Gomes>, Chuck Gomes <cgomes at verisign.com>
Date: Monday 24 February 2014 22:28
To: Nic Steinbach <nic at name.com>
Cc: Marika Konings <marika.konings at icann.org>,
"gnso-subteam0b-policyimpl at icann.org" <gnso-subteam0b-policyimpl at icann.org>
Subject: RE: [Gnso-subteam0b-policyimpl] For final review - revised working
principles document

Looks good to me Nic.

Chuck

From: Nic Steinbach [mailto:nic at name.com] 
Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 3:50 PM
To: Gomes, Chuck
Cc: Marika Konings; gnso-subteam0b-policyimpl at icann.org
Subject: Re: [Gnso-subteam0b-policyimpl] For final review - revised working
principles document

Hi Chuck, 

I had a suggestion in that first email, but here is another suggestion that
I think makes it a little more concrete.

"The development and implementation of policy must have a basis in and
adhere to standards of fairness, notice, transparency, integrity,
objectivity, predictability and due process consistent with ICANN's core
values [link to values]."

Quite a mouthful, but it is a pretty straightforward approach to capturing
all of the descriptors in both of the sentences. I also didn't want to have
the word "principle" in a principle.

As you said I would roll it into section B.

What do you (and others) think?

-Nic

On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 1:30 PM, Gomes, Chuck <cgomes at verisign.com> wrote:

I like this Nic.  I wondered if that is what you meant.  What language would
you suggest?

Chuck

From: Nic Steinbach [mailto:nic at name.com] 
Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 11:17 AM

To: Gomes, Chuck
Cc: Marika Konings; gnso-subteam0b-policyimpl at icann.org

Subject: Re: [Gnso-subteam0b-policyimpl] For final review - revised working
principles document

"My preference is to roll them together into section C. "

I apologize. Should be:

"My preference is to roll them together into a bullet point in section B."

On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 9:16 AM, Nic Steinbach <nic at name.com> wrote:

Hi Chuck, 

I think that while these provisions contain similar language, in context
they seem to be referring to different principles.

C. 1.) b) - Seems to be referring to the development of policy. 

The "development should be based on principles of fairness, notice,
transparency and due process as well as predictability."

D. 1.) c.) - Seems to be referring to the application of policy. 

"Applying documented policies neutrally and objectively, with integrity and
fairness."

I don't think that these are duplicates, although we may want to make sure
that D.1.) c.) makes reference to implementation explicitly instead of
"applying documented policies." 

Alternatively we could roll both of these provisions into section B
(Principles that apply to policy and implementation) and remove them from C.
and D. 

Something like:

"Policy development and implementation should be based on and adhere to
principles of fairness, notice, transparency, integrity, objectivity,
predictability and due process."

My preference is to roll them together into section C. 

Best, 

Nic

On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 7:38 AM, Gomes, Chuck <cgomes at verisign.com> wrote:

Sorry about forgetting to attach the file.  Here it is.

Chuck

From: Gomes, Chuck 
Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2014 8:21 PM
To: 'Marika Konings'; 'gnso-subteam0b-policyimpl at icann.org'
Subject: RE: [Gnso-subteam0b-policyimpl] For final review - revised working
principles document

You guys did great work last Thursday.  The principles document looks very
good and the organization of it seems very clear and logical to me.  Other
than one think that is repeated as shown with two comments in the attached
file, it looks very close to being  ready to send to the full WG.  I am
assuming that our agenda for our call this coming Thursday will be to make
any final tweaks, after which we would send it to the full WG so that they
can review it before the WG call on 5 March.  Is that correct?

What is the thinking with regard to the Notes to Pass Back to the WG?  Is
the assumption that we do not need to develop any principles for these
items?  What expectations for the WG are there?

Chuck

From:gnso-subteam0b-policyimpl-bounces at icann.org
[mailto:gnso-subteam0b-policyimpl-bounces at icann.org]
<mailto:[mailto:gnso-subteam0b-policyimpl-bounces at icann.org]>  On Behalf Of
Marika Konings
Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2014 5:27 PM
To: gnso-subteam0b-policyimpl at icann.org
Subject: [Gnso-subteam0b-policyimpl] For final review - revised working
principles document

Dear All,

Following our call today, please find attached the revised version of the
working principles document, both in redline (capturing the changes of
today's meeting) as well as a clean version (with a separate annex covering
'notes to the WG'). As those sub-team members that were on the call are of
the view that this is now ready for submission to the full WG, you are
encouraged to let the mailing list know if you disagree with this assessment
and/or share any additional edits / comments you may have. 

If no substantive comments are received by Wednesday 26 March, the proposed
working principles will be submitted to the full WG for review and
discussion at its next meeting on 5 March.

Thanks for all your hard work!

Best regards,

Marika

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