[GNSO-TPR] A few issues

[Mike Rodenbaugh]

The IPC also is interested in the issue of transfer fees.  I do not know
the history of discussion of that issue, but think it should be in scope of
the TPR.

I also agree that policy decisions should never be made during WG calls,
and only after presentation for discussion on the list.  I believe that is
consistent with the PDP Manual and generally how this WG has been conducted
at least until recently.

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On Thu, Jun 9, 2022 at 4:28 PM farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>
wrote:

>
> Thanks Emily. So they decided not to do any work because we didn’t even
> address these two issues. The issue of sanctions, I understand it might be
> out of mandate but the transfer fee is something ALAC and NCSG brought up
> and it should have been addressed by this group, even if it was dismissing
> it.
>
> I also think other than ICANN compliance, those at ICANN involved with
> registrants rights and responsibilities should have been involved with this
> group.
>
> I am going to raise this with the GNSO later but we keep doing policy work
> during meetings. Some of us don’t do policy at ICANN as our day job. We
> have other commitments. Notes are great but we still miss the boat if we
> can’t attend the meetings. I would like to see a more hybrid approach where
> we can actually make policy through written conversations on mailing lists
> so that we get to reply. This is very important especially for the
> registrants rights and bringing more diverse points of views.
>
> On Wed, Jun 8, 2022 at 6:34 AM Emily Barabas <emily.barabas at icann.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Farzaneh,
>>
>>
>>
>> The working group circled back to these two items during yesterday’s
>> working group meeting. Meeting notes and recording are available here
>> <https://community.icann.org/display/TPRPDP/2022-06-07+Transfer+Policy+Review+PDP+WG+Call>.
>> On the Zoom recording
>> <https://icann.zoom.us/rec/play/4v47jJJKGtv79CIQjgWTQZ4MGVdRwAq7d_6O-w_N-nQvaz-4p5Uz9hWmTtVIQIRPOB0WsQuYbHDOYIwL.9DBlazbZb2yt08n1>,
>> they are discussed beginning at minute 5:00.
>>
>>
>>
>> As detailed in the notes and recording, at this time, the working group
>> has not reached any agreement to pursue additional work on these topics and
>> questions remain about whether they are in scope.
>>
>>
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>> Caitlin, Julie, Berry, and Emily
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From: *GNSO-TPR <gnso-tpr-bounces at icann.org> on behalf of farzaneh
>> badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>
>> *Date: *Tuesday, 31 May 2022 at 14:17
>> *To: *"gnso-tpr at icann.org" <gnso-tpr at icann.org>
>> *Subject: *[GNSO-TPR] A few issues
>>
>>
>>
>> Dear all,
>>
>>
>>
>> I was wondering if we addressed the following issues at some point as I
>> don't see them in the preliminary recommendations:
>>
>>
>>
>> 1. Sanctions: there have been instances of registrars or registries
>> finding out that the domain name registrant is located or is providing
>> services to ordinary residents of sanctioned countries. In some cases they
>> have been able to transfer smoothly. But in others the notice to transfer
>> was too short and it amounted to confiscation of a domain name. sometimes
>> the registrars change jurisdiction and suddenly stop serving domain name
>> registrants in sanctioned countries which is over compliance with the
>> sanctions anyway. But they do that on regular basis. Up to this point ICANN
>> has allowed this to happen since this is within the remit of internal
>> governance of registries and registrars. Can we discuss this issue a little
>> bit more?
>>
>>
>>
>> 2. Fees: I can't find anything in our recommendations about excessive
>> transfer fees. Fee setting by ICANN creates complications but can we
>> mention that non-malicious  transfer should be free or transfer fee should
>> be reasonably priced?
>>
>>
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Farzaneh
>>
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> Farzaneh
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