[GNSO-TPR] [Ext] Re: For Review: Latest Redline of Phase 1A Initial Report & Recommendations

Steve Crocker steve at shinkuro.com
Wed Feb 15 20:44:08 UTC 2023


Why can't the TPR WG require something more forthcoming for the registrants?

Steve


On Wed, Feb 15, 2023 at 3:42 PM Mike Rodenbaugh <mike at rodenbaugh.com> wrote:

> Thanks Steve, good point.  I guess those registrars and their resellers
> will have to sort out that inevitable confusion.
>
> Thanks Emily for the quick and helpful response, much appreciated.
>
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>
> Mike Rodenbaugh
>
> address:
>
> 548 Market Street, Box 55819
>
> San Francisco, CA 94104
>
> email:
>
> mike at rodenbaugh.com
>
> phone:
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> +1 (415) 738-8087
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 15, 2023 at 12:25 PM Steve Crocker <steve at shinkuro.com> wrote:
>
>> I have had it pointed out to me that registrants registered through
>> resellers may not know or recognize even the name of the registrar, much
>> less the IANA ID.
>>
>> Steve
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 15, 2023 at 3:23 PM Emily Barabas <emily.barabas at icann.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Mike,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks for the questions.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> IANA IDs are not defined in the Transfer Policy; this is a unique ID
>>> assigned to registrar when it becomes accredited with ICANN org. The list
>>> of IANA IDs is managed on this page:
>>> https://www.iana.org/assignments/registrar-ids/registrar-ids.xhtml
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The working group has acknowledged that the IANA ID alone may not be
>>> meaningful to registrants. The current recommendations state that when the
>>> Losing Registrar includes the IANA ID in the Transfer Confirmation and the
>>> Notification of Transfer Completion, it also includes "a link to
>>> ICANN-maintained webpage listing accredited Registrars and corresponding
>>> IANA IDs. If available, the name of the Gaining Registrar(s) may also be
>>> included." The expectation is that this will assist the Registrant in
>>> identifying the registrar.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Kind regards,
>>>
>>> Emily
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From: *Mike Rodenbaugh <mike at rodenbaugh.com>
>>> *Date: *Wednesday, 15 February 2023 at 20:52
>>> *To: *Emily Barabas <emily.barabas at icann.org>
>>> *Cc: *"gnso-tpr at icann.org" <gnso-tpr at icann.org>
>>> *Subject: *[Ext] Re: [GNSO-TPR] For Review: Latest Redline of Phase 1A
>>> Initial Report & Recommendations
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks Emily.  I have one hopefully quick question.  Is IANA ID defined
>>> anywhere in the Policy?  Does it include the name of the Gaining Registrar
>>> rather than merely a number that few people would understand?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> [image: Image removed by sender. Logo]
>>>
>>> *Mike Rodenbaugh*
>>>
>>> *address:*
>>>
>>> 548 Market Street, Box 55819
>>>
>>> San Francisco, CA 94104
>>>
>>> *email:*
>>>
>>> mike at rodenbaugh.com
>>>
>>> *phone:*
>>>
>>> +1 (415) 738-8087
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 15, 2023 at 7:43 AM Emily Barabas <emily.barabas at icann.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear working group members,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> As discussed on our recent calls, staff had an action item to provide an
>>> updated redline revision of the Phase 1A Initial Report to the working
>>> group for review. The updated redline is attached and includes:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>    - New edits supported by the working group after reviewing public
>>>    comments and considering small group outputs.
>>>    - Updated responses to charter questions and rationales to more
>>>    fully provide context and reasoning for the WG’s recommendations.
>>>    - Updates for consistency in terminology, the way that timeframes
>>>    are referenced, etc.
>>>    - Discussion of items that the NCSG and SSAC asked the working group
>>>    to consider, but that the working group determined were out of scope.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Please make sure to review the following*, *with a particular focus on
>>> **edits that are new since the 21 December redline. New edits are **highlighted
>>> in yellow.*
>>>
>>>    - *Section 3 of the report (pages 11-50) *
>>>    - *Annex D (pages 58-63)*
>>>
>>> Highlights in blue are to assist staff in tracking areas of the report
>>> that will need to updated in the future. Working group members can ignore
>>> these highlights for now.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Please carefully review this document in coordination with the groups
>>> you represent. If you feel that there are items that need to be revised, *please
>>> enter them here [docs.google.com]
>>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/docs.google.com/document/d/1eRM4mFGDNYhb0tiD5V_PE4zxnIKfD46esX6EtHeOnEw/edit__;!!PtGJab4!_2POme06lu4MsIzOmyW4etMBYeNlLpbe1eEdgjauP9YA5CBua0gNGWejnTzSEFfd46tinO8LjE0xVDI5ovxMRFrf$>.
>>> *For each item, please include:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>    - Report version (the date listed in the header of the document) and
>>>    applicable line numbers ( these are listed along the left margin of the
>>>    document).
>>>    - Name and group you represent: If multiple WG members represent a
>>>    group, input should be in coordination with these other members.
>>>    - Rationale: please provide a clear explanation for why you are
>>>    proposing the revision.
>>>    - Specific proposed revision: Provide the language you would like to
>>>    see added/removed/edited.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *The inputs will be reviewed when the working group returns to
>>> considering Phase 1(a) items. Additional information about the timeline for
>>> returning to Phase 1(a) will be provided as we progress through discussion
>>> of Phase 2 topics. *
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Please do not hesitate to reach out with any questions about the review
>>> process.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Kind regards,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  Caitlin, Julie, Berry, and Emily
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Emily Barabas
>>>
>>> Policy Development Support Senior Manager
>>>
>>> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)
>>>
>>> Phone: +31 (0)6 84507976
>>>
>>> www.icann.org
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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