[gtld-tech] Delegated strings: WHOIS & SLAs...

Greg Aaron greg at illumintel.com
Wed Nov 20 16:03:51 UTC 2013

FYI, Spec 4: "Registration Data Directory Services. Until ICANN requires a
different protocol, Registry Operator will operate a WHOIS service available
via port 43 in accordance with RFC 3912, and a web-based Directory Service
at <whois.nic.TLD> providing free public query-based access to at least the
following elements in the following format."

So web-based MUST be at nic.tld.  But oddly, I don’t see that whois.nic.tld
was required for port 43 service.

One would think that if a TLD has a name in the zone, then WHOIS service
would be available. 

All best,

-----Original Message-----
From: gtld-tech-bounces at icann.org [mailto:gtld-tech-bounces at icann.org] On
Behalf Of Rubens Kuhl
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 10:29 AM
To: Alexander Mayrhofer
Cc: gtld-tech at icann.org
Subject: Re: [gtld-tech] Delegated strings: WHOIS & SLAs...

Actually, as whois service is tested prior to delegation, you have to enter
the zone with whois not in the TLD in the first place, and then using an
IANA change request to move it. 

ICANN mentioned that the main requirement for standardised whois.nic.<TLD>
is CA-related activities, so they will probably don’t mind not having
whois.nic.<TLD> prior to the 120-days after contract signing where you
cannot delegate anything besides nic.<TLD> 


On Nov 20, 2013, at 12:25 PM, Alexander Mayrhofer
<alexander.mayrhofer at nic.at> wrote:

> I'm using whois.nic.<TLD> - and, yes, nic.<TLD> is properly delegated and
reachable in that case, but "whois.nic.<tld>" returns an NXDOMAIN. My
understanding is that ICANN requires the WHOIS service to be offered under
that hostname...  See the respective specification in the AGB..
> Indeed, the IANA record shows a different server - so, do i understand
correctly that you can actually submit to IANA a different WHOIS server than
the one required by ICANN? Can anyone who's already delegated confirm this?
> Alex
>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>> Von: Rubens Kuhl [mailto:rubensk at nic.br]
>> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 20. November 2013 15:02
>> An: Alexander Mayrhofer
>> Cc: gtld-tech at icann.org
>> Betreff: Re: [gtld-tech] Delegated strings: WHOIS & SLAs...
>> Are you using whois.nic.<TLD> or the WHOIS server mentioned at 
>> http://www.iana.org/whois?q=<TLD> ?
>> Rubens
>> On Nov 20, 2013, at 10:53 AM, Alexander Mayrhofer 
>> <alexander.mayrhofer at nic.at> wrote:
>>> Looking at some of the recently delegated new gTLDs, i was very 
>>> surprised
>> to learn that the WHOIS service is unreachable for some of those TLDs 
>> (which makes me wonder how they passed PDT, or why the service 
>> degraded since then?). Anyways, since WHOIS is included in the SLA 
>> requirements of ICANN, this makes me also wonder when the SLA 
>> actually "kicks in", and, whether the SLAs are actually being measured
right now by ICANN ...
>>> Any information about this?
>>> Alex

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