[gtld-tech] Delegated strings: WHOIS & SLAs...
Jay Daley
jay at nzrs.net.nz
Wed Nov 20 17:48:43 UTC 2013
On 20/11/2013, at 2:46 pm, Rubens Kuhl <rubensk at nic.br> wrote:
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> gTLDs can’t delegate names with _ due to policy, so you won’t see them. And as _tcp is also a threat vector, I don’t see that changing in the future.
It's not a delegation, nor is it a registration - are "control" records forbidden to new TLDs?
Jay
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> Rubens
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> On Nov 20, 2013, at 2:43 PM, Jay Daley <jay at nzrs.net.nz> wrote:
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>> In an ideal world they would all be using _nicname._tcp.tld SRV records:
>>
>> jay$ dig +short _nicname._tcp.nz srv
>> 0 0 43 whois.srs.net.nz.
>>
>> I've only checked ten and none have it.
>>
>> Old article here: http://www.circleid.com/posts/whois_server_address_registry/
>>
>> Jay
>>
>> On 20/11/2013, at 1:03 pm, Greg Aaron <greg at illumintel.com> wrote:
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>>> FYI, Spec 4: "Registration Data Directory Services. Until ICANN requires a
>>> different protocol, Registry Operator will operate a WHOIS service available
>>> via port 43 in accordance with RFC 3912, and a web-based Directory Service
>>> at <whois.nic.TLD> providing free public query-based access to at least the
>>> following elements in the following format."
>>>
>>> So web-based MUST be at nic.tld. But oddly, I don’t see that whois.nic.tld
>>> was required for port 43 service.
>>>
>>> One would think that if a TLD has a name in the zone, then WHOIS service
>>> would be available.
>>>
>>> All best,
>>> --Greg
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: gtld-tech-bounces at icann.org [mailto:gtld-tech-bounces at icann.org] On
>>> Behalf Of Rubens Kuhl
>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 10:29 AM
>>> To: Alexander Mayrhofer
>>> Cc: gtld-tech at icann.org
>>> Subject: Re: [gtld-tech] Delegated strings: WHOIS & SLAs...
>>>
>>>
>>> Actually, as whois service is tested prior to delegation, you have to enter
>>> the zone with whois not in the TLD in the first place, and then using an
>>> IANA change request to move it.
>>>
>>> ICANN mentioned that the main requirement for standardised whois.nic.<TLD>
>>> is CA-related activities, so they will probably don’t mind not having
>>> whois.nic.<TLD> prior to the 120-days after contract signing where you
>>> cannot delegate anything besides nic.<TLD>
>>>
>>>
>>> Rubens
>>>
>>>
>>> On Nov 20, 2013, at 12:25 PM, Alexander Mayrhofer
>>> <alexander.mayrhofer at nic.at> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm using whois.nic.<TLD> - and, yes, nic.<TLD> is properly delegated and
>>> reachable in that case, but "whois.nic.<tld>" returns an NXDOMAIN. My
>>> understanding is that ICANN requires the WHOIS service to be offered under
>>> that hostname... See the respective specification in the AGB..
>>>>
>>>> Indeed, the IANA record shows a different server - so, do i understand
>>> correctly that you can actually submit to IANA a different WHOIS server than
>>> the one required by ICANN? Can anyone who's already delegated confirm this?
>>>>
>>>> Alex
>>>>
>>>>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>>>>> Von: Rubens Kuhl [mailto:rubensk at nic.br]
>>>>> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 20. November 2013 15:02
>>>>> An: Alexander Mayrhofer
>>>>> Cc: gtld-tech at icann.org
>>>>> Betreff: Re: [gtld-tech] Delegated strings: WHOIS & SLAs...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Are you using whois.nic.<TLD> or the WHOIS server mentioned at
>>>>> http://www.iana.org/whois?q=<TLD> ?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Rubens
>>>>>
>>>>> On Nov 20, 2013, at 10:53 AM, Alexander Mayrhofer
>>>>> <alexander.mayrhofer at nic.at> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Looking at some of the recently delegated new gTLDs, i was very
>>>>>> surprised
>>>>> to learn that the WHOIS service is unreachable for some of those TLDs
>>>>> (which makes me wonder how they passed PDT, or why the service
>>>>> degraded since then?). Anyways, since WHOIS is included in the SLA
>>>>> requirements of ICANN, this makes me also wonder when the SLA
>>>>> actually "kicks in", and, whether the SLAs are actually being measured
>>> right now by ICANN ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any information about this?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Alex
>>>>>>
>>>>
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>>>
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>> --
>> Jay Daley
>> Chief Executive
>> .nz Registry Services (New Zealand Domain Name Registry Limited)
>> desk: +64 4 931 6977
>> mobile: +64 21 678840
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--
Jay Daley
Chief Executive
.nz Registry Services (New Zealand Domain Name Registry Limited)
desk: +64 4 931 6977
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