[gtld-tech] Delegated strings: WHOIS & SLAs...
Rubens Kuhl
rubensk at nic.br
Wed Nov 20 17:46:57 UTC 2013
gTLDs can’t delegate names with _ due to policy, so you won’t see them. And as _tcp is also a threat vector, I don’t see that changing in the future.
Rubens
On Nov 20, 2013, at 2:43 PM, Jay Daley <jay at nzrs.net.nz> wrote:
> In an ideal world they would all be using _nicname._tcp.tld SRV records:
>
> jay$ dig +short _nicname._tcp.nz srv
> 0 0 43 whois.srs.net.nz.
>
> I've only checked ten and none have it.
>
> Old article here: http://www.circleid.com/posts/whois_server_address_registry/
>
> Jay
>
> On 20/11/2013, at 1:03 pm, Greg Aaron <greg at illumintel.com> wrote:
>
>> FYI, Spec 4: "Registration Data Directory Services. Until ICANN requires a
>> different protocol, Registry Operator will operate a WHOIS service available
>> via port 43 in accordance with RFC 3912, and a web-based Directory Service
>> at <whois.nic.TLD> providing free public query-based access to at least the
>> following elements in the following format."
>>
>> So web-based MUST be at nic.tld. But oddly, I don’t see that whois.nic.tld
>> was required for port 43 service.
>>
>> One would think that if a TLD has a name in the zone, then WHOIS service
>> would be available.
>>
>> All best,
>> --Greg
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: gtld-tech-bounces at icann.org [mailto:gtld-tech-bounces at icann.org] On
>> Behalf Of Rubens Kuhl
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 10:29 AM
>> To: Alexander Mayrhofer
>> Cc: gtld-tech at icann.org
>> Subject: Re: [gtld-tech] Delegated strings: WHOIS & SLAs...
>>
>>
>> Actually, as whois service is tested prior to delegation, you have to enter
>> the zone with whois not in the TLD in the first place, and then using an
>> IANA change request to move it.
>>
>> ICANN mentioned that the main requirement for standardised whois.nic.<TLD>
>> is CA-related activities, so they will probably don’t mind not having
>> whois.nic.<TLD> prior to the 120-days after contract signing where you
>> cannot delegate anything besides nic.<TLD>
>>
>>
>> Rubens
>>
>>
>> On Nov 20, 2013, at 12:25 PM, Alexander Mayrhofer
>> <alexander.mayrhofer at nic.at> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm using whois.nic.<TLD> - and, yes, nic.<TLD> is properly delegated and
>> reachable in that case, but "whois.nic.<tld>" returns an NXDOMAIN. My
>> understanding is that ICANN requires the WHOIS service to be offered under
>> that hostname... See the respective specification in the AGB..
>>>
>>> Indeed, the IANA record shows a different server - so, do i understand
>> correctly that you can actually submit to IANA a different WHOIS server than
>> the one required by ICANN? Can anyone who's already delegated confirm this?
>>>
>>> Alex
>>>
>>>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>>>> Von: Rubens Kuhl [mailto:rubensk at nic.br]
>>>> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 20. November 2013 15:02
>>>> An: Alexander Mayrhofer
>>>> Cc: gtld-tech at icann.org
>>>> Betreff: Re: [gtld-tech] Delegated strings: WHOIS & SLAs...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Are you using whois.nic.<TLD> or the WHOIS server mentioned at
>>>> http://www.iana.org/whois?q=<TLD> ?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Rubens
>>>>
>>>> On Nov 20, 2013, at 10:53 AM, Alexander Mayrhofer
>>>> <alexander.mayrhofer at nic.at> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Looking at some of the recently delegated new gTLDs, i was very
>>>>> surprised
>>>> to learn that the WHOIS service is unreachable for some of those TLDs
>>>> (which makes me wonder how they passed PDT, or why the service
>>>> degraded since then?). Anyways, since WHOIS is included in the SLA
>>>> requirements of ICANN, this makes me also wonder when the SLA
>>>> actually "kicks in", and, whether the SLAs are actually being measured
>> right now by ICANN ...
>>>>>
>>>>> Any information about this?
>>>>>
>>>>> Alex
>>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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