[gtld-tech] Do not implement before date in CL&D and RDAP profile

Francisco Arias francisco.arias at icann.org
Thu Jul 21 20:13:11 UTC 2016

Hi Ben,

The 1-Feb-2017 date has been discussed in the Implementation Review Team of the Thick Whois policy and other presentations in ICANN and other events.

Registrations under .com, .jobs, and .net (the only thin gTLD registries), both in the registry and registrar side, are not required to be offered, but may be offered over RDAP according to the gTLD RDAP profile. They are expected to be required in the upcoming policy for the transition from thin to thick.

I think I covered questions 3 and 4 below with my other email. If not, please let me know.

The final date by which RDAP would have to be operational would be 1-Feb-2017. We expect to publish the final version of the profile and send the formal notices to contracted parties early next week.



On 7/19/16, 9:21 AM, "Benoit Levac" <benoit.levac at rightside.co<mailto:benoit.levac at rightside.co>> wrote:


I have a few questions regarding your email before I can express an opinion as to whether the dates should be added or not to the documents.

1 - I don't recall seeing a proposed effective date of February 1st 2017 on the RDAP profile discussions, or anywhere else.  When was this date announced?

2 - According to a note on page 15 of the latest red line of the RDAP profile, "Thick Whois Policy that covers the transition of .com, .jobs and .net gTLDs from thin to thick Whois will define an implementation date for Registrars to offer an RDAP service for registrations under these TLDs." .  By adding the February 1st 2017 date to the CL&D (Thick Whois Policy), I want to confirm whether that includes registrar WHOIS for .COM, .NET and .JOB per the comment in the RDAP Profile, or whether those are separate dates.

3 - By "do not implement before date", do you mean the date by when Registries and Registrars have to comply with the 2 mentioned policies?  If so, isn't it more of a "MUST implement by" date?  I assume that is the date when you would start monitoring for compliance?

4 - When you say you will need 4 months to implement your RDDS monitoring, do you mean from now?  From February 1st 2017?  I'm not sure I understand how that gives us 2 months.  2 months from what date?

5 - To be clear, what would be our final compliance date to have RDAP service fully operational per the RDAP profile?

Thank you.


On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 6:18 PM, Francisco Arias <francisco.arias at icann.org<mailto:francisco.arias at icann.org>> wrote:
Dear colleagues,

As you may recall the gTLD RDAP profile and Thick Whois policy implementation – Consistent Labeling and Display (CL&D for short) are synchronized and have a proposed effective date of 1 February 2017. This means enforcement would start on that date. However, in monitoring compliance with a given policy or contractual requirement we also need time to develop our tools and be able to *not* report false compliance issues (e.g., our current tool would raise an issue if it encounters the new Whois output that is specified in CL&D). We need to update that tool to avoid that issue from happening.

We’d like to add to both CL&D and the RDAP profile a “do not implement before” date to avoid the aforementioned issue. We are thinking we are going to need approximately four months to update/build our tools be able to identify the updated Whois output and RDAP output. That would give contracted parties approximately a two-month window for release before the effective. We are planning to add such a date to the documents, unless there is a reason why people think we should not.



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