[ICANN Academy WG] RES: ICANN Academy WG meetings in Toronto confirmed

Stéphane Van Gelder stephane.vangelder at indom.com
Thu Sep 6 08:17:47 UTC 2012


Hi Marilyn,

Well if YOU want a single session, then I guess that's the end of that discussion ;)

Joking aside, I understand from Sandra's answer that the two sessions were not, as I had understood originally, meant to be a re-hash of one another designed to ensure maximum participation.

That being the case, I have to agree with you that holding two separate GROUP DISCUSSION sessions is a risk and should be avoided.

However, it will come as no surprise to you that I remain strongly opposed to letting you have everything your own way, and would therefore not want to see this meeting scheduled at 7 or 7:30 am ;)

Stéphane Van Gelder
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Le 5 sept. 2012 à 23:20, Marilyn Cade a écrit :

> I still want a single session, Stephane. Holding two sessions w different participants creates a bad situation for staff, and then we, the community whine that we are not in agreement, when we were never in same room.
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> From: Stéphane Van Gelder <stephane.vangelder at indom.com>
> Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2012 18:52:21 
> To: <at-large-icann-academy-ad-hoc-wg at icann.org>
> Subject: Re: [ICANN Academy WG] RES: ICANN Academy WG meetings in Toronto
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> Sandra,
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> Can you clarify if you have planned for two identical informational sessions aimed at the community, or for two separate work sessions aimed at the group?
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> This information seems important to have before anyone runs off to buy some croissants.
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> Stéphane Van Gelder
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> Le 5 sept. 2012 à 20:30, "Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro" <salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com <mailto:salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com> > a écrit :
> I agree with Marilyn's suggestions that having a single focussed meeting. 
> I also wholeheartedly agree with the croissants and juice/tea/coffee. If this is indeed a priority for each of us, then we will make time but within limits as there other competing priorities as well. 
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> Kind Regards,
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> On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 4:54 AM, Jonathan Cohen <jcohen at shapirocohen.com <mailto:jcohen at shapirocohen.com> > wrote:
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> From: at-large-icann-academy-ad-hoc-wg-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org <mailto:at-large-icann-academy-ad-hoc-wg-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org>  [mailto:at-large-icann-academy-ad-hoc-wg-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org <mailto:at-large-icann-academy-ad-hoc-wg-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org> ] On Behalf Of Vanda UOL
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> To: 'Marilyn Cade'; 'sandra hoferichter'; 'At Large ICANN Academy'
> Subject: [ICANN Academy WG] RES: ICANN Academy WG meetings in Toronto confirmed 
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> I totally agree with Marilyin, different sessions will bring different messages and conclusions. We need to focus on one meeting very organized  to allow views to converge.  I agree with 7 AM or 7:30 AM.
> Small juice and croissants as Marilyn has suggested will do great.
> Best,
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> De: at-large-icann-academy-ad-hoc-wg-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org <mailto:at-large-icann-academy-ad-hoc-wg-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org>  [mailto:at-large-icann-academy-ad-hoc-wg-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org] Em nome de Marilyn Cade
> Enviada em: quarta-feira, 5 de setembro de 2012 09:59
> Para: sandra hoferichter; At Large ICANN Academy
> Assunto: Re: [ICANN Academy WG] ICANN Academy WG meetings in Toronto confirmed
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> Sandra and Filiz 
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> Thanks for this proposal.  In my view, there must be a single meeting in Toronto. The rest of the community has major work items 
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> beyond the Academy idea/concept/proposal. We have to have a single discussion.  Holding this from 7:30-9:00 a.m. is an excellent idea. 
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> All of us will do our best to show up on time. 
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> Personally, I start many BC meetings at 7 a.m., so that I can conclude them PRIOR to the agenda of other meetings. I am willing to meet at 7 am.  
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> for this meeting/discussion in order to have a single, and focused discussion. It is important that staff and staff consultants are not put in  
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> the position of hearing different messages. This meeting needs to be about the community communicating with itself and not creating  
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> yet another setting where we are not talking to and with each other, but reading transcripts, and wondering what happens next.  If you hold 
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> two meetings, you will continue to divide the community and avoid the basic dialogue that is needed among the community members 
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> who have questions, or concerns, or different ideas. It is essential that we area ll in one room, at one time. That was what led us to  
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> this space -- let's not miss this opportunity for a single dialogue opportunity.   
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> Please, consolidate these sessions into one single and early session on Wednesday.   
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> For me, I will have many other responsibilities for my constituency, including focus on SSR; and many other topics. I will not be alone in that challenge. 
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> The Academy is an interesting concept that the community, broadly, is trying to assess.  
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> It is limited in its contribution to the larger issues that the community is raising. I am committed to a true assessment of how/whether 
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> it can evolve  to serve the community.  
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> Those of us who are committed to this discussion will show up at 7 a.m.. We do it all the time in our daily work lives.  
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> Serve croissants with the coffee and juice, and we can handle the complaints about breakfast. :-)  
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> Marilyn Cade, BC Chair 
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> From: info at hoferichter.eu <mailto:info at hoferichter.eu> 
> To: at-large-icann-academy-ad-hoc-wg at icann.org <mailto:at-large-icann-academy-ad-hoc-wg at icann.org> 
> Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2012 13:42:06 +0200
> Subject: [ICANN Academy WG] ICANN Academy WG meetings in Toronto confirmed
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> Dear all, 
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> the Academy Working Group meetings have now both been confirmed (see: https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Meetings+-+Wednesday%2C+17+October+2012 <https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Meetings+-+Wednesday%2c+17+October+2012> ). 
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> Academy WG Session 1 - Wed, 17 October between 7:30-9:00 in the Harbour C Room
> Academy WG Session 2 - Wed, 17 October between 11:00-12:30 in the Regatta Meeting Room
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> The agenda will be uploaded soon but I ask you herewith to pencil these dates in your calendar.
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> Best Sandra 
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