[ICANN Academy WG] RES: ICANN Academy WG meetings in Toronto confirmed

[Nigel Roberts]

While I doubt that, with jet lag (nothwithstanding that it's the 'wrong 
way round'), I have the stamina, to be awake enough fully to participate 
effectively at such an unearthly hour, and therefore support that part 
of Stéphane's comments about the first proposed meeting ....

I remain highly sceptical about having two meetings on the same day, and 
as the proposed day (Wednesday) appears that it may clash directly with 
ccNSO constituency meetings which, at least as far as I am concerned, 
must take priority, I must tender my apologies for that second proposed 
meeting.



On 09/06/2012 09:17 AM, Stéphane Van Gelder wrote:
> Hi Marilyn,
>
> Well if YOU want a single session, then I guess that's the end of that
> discussion ;)
>
> Joking aside, I understand from Sandra's answer that the two sessions
> were not, as I had understood originally, meant to be a re-hash of one
> another designed to ensure maximum participation.
>
> That being the case, I have to agree with you that holding two separate
> GROUP DISCUSSION sessions is a risk and should be avoided.
>
> However, it will come as no surprise to you that I remain strongly
> opposed to letting you have everything your own way, and would therefore
> not want to see this meeting scheduled at 7 or 7:30 am ;)
>
> Stéphane Van Gelder
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> Le 5 sept. 2012 à 23:20, Marilyn Cade a écrit :
>
>> I still want a single session, Stephane. Holding two sessions w
>> different participants creates a bad situation for staff, and then we,
>> the community whine that we are not in agreement, when we were never
>> in same room.
>> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Stéphane Van Gelder <stephane.vangelder at indom.com
>> <mailto:stephane.vangelder at indom.com>>
>> Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2012 18:52:21
>> To: <at-large-icann-academy-ad-hoc-wg at icann.org
>> <mailto:at-large-icann-academy-ad-hoc-wg at icann.org>>
>> Subject: Re: [ICANN Academy WG] RES: ICANN Academy WG meetings in Toronto
>> confirmed
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>> Sandra,
>>
>>
>> Can you clarify if you have planned for two identical informational
>> sessions aimed at the community, or for two separate work sessions
>> aimed at the group?
>>
>>
>> This information seems important to have before anyone runs off to buy
>> some croissants.
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>> Stéphane Van Gelder
>> Directeur Général / General manager
>> INDOM Group NBT France
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>> Le 5 sept. 2012 à 20:30, "Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro"
>> <salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com
>> <mailto:salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com>
>> <mailto:salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com> > a écrit :
>> I agree with Marilyn's suggestions that having a single focussed meeting.
>> I also wholeheartedly agree with the croissants and juice/tea/coffee.
>> If this is indeed a priority for each of us, then we will make time
>> but within limits as there other competing priorities as well.
>>
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>> Sala
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 4:54 AM, Jonathan Cohen
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>> ] On Behalf Of Vanda UOL
>> Sent: September 5, 2012 12:20 PM
>> To: 'Marilyn Cade'; 'sandra hoferichter'; 'At Large ICANN Academy'
>> Subject: [ICANN Academy WG] RES: ICANN Academy WG meetings in Toronto
>> confirmed
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>> I totally agree with Marilyin, different sessions will bring different
>> messages and conclusions. We need to focus on one meeting very
>> organized to allow views to converge. I agree with 7 AM or 7:30 AM.
>> Small juice and croissants as Marilyn has suggested will do great.
>> Best,
>> Vanda Scartezini
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>> [mailto:at-large-icann-academy-ad-hoc-wg-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org]
>> Em nome de Marilyn Cade
>> Enviada em: quarta-feira, 5 de setembro de 2012 09:59
>> Para: sandra hoferichter; At Large ICANN Academy
>> Assunto: Re: [ICANN Academy WG] ICANN Academy WG meetings in Toronto
>> confirmed
>> Prioridade: Alta
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>> Sandra and Filiz
>>
>> Thanks for this proposal. In my view, there must be a single meeting
>> in Toronto. The rest of the community has major work items
>>
>> beyond the Academy idea/concept/proposal. We have to have a single
>> discussion. Holding this from 7:30-9:00 a.m. is an excellent idea.
>>
>> All of us will do our best to show up on time.
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>> Personally, I start many BC meetings at 7 a.m., so that I can conclude
>> them PRIOR to the agenda of other meetings. I am willing to meet at 7 am.
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>> for this meeting/discussion in order to have a single, and focused
>> discussion. It is important that staff and staff consultants are not
>> put in
>>
>> the position of hearing different messages. This meeting needs to be
>> about the community communicating with itself and not creating
>>
>> yet another setting where we are not talking to and with each other,
>> but reading transcripts, and wondering what happens next. If you hold
>>
>> two meetings, you will continue to divide the community and avoid the
>> basic dialogue that is needed among the community members
>>
>> who have questions, or concerns, or different ideas. It is essential
>> that we area ll in one room, at one time. That was what led us to
>>
>> this space -- let's not miss this opportunity for a single dialogue
>> opportunity.
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>> Please, consolidate these sessions into one single and early session
>> on Wednesday.
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>> For me, I will have many other responsibilities for my constituency,
>> including focus on SSR; and many other topics. I will not be alone in
>> that challenge.
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>> The Academy is an interesting concept that the community, broadly, is
>> trying to assess.
>>
>> It is limited in its contribution to the larger issues that the
>> community is raising. I am committed to a true assessment of how/whether
>>
>> it can evolve to serve the community.
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>> Those of us who are committed to this discussion will show up at 7
>> a.m.. We do it all the time in our daily work lives.
>>
>> Serve croissants with the coffee and juice, and we can handle the
>> complaints about breakfast. :-)
>>
>>
>>
>> Marilyn Cade, BC Chair
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>> From: info at hoferichter.eu <mailto:info at hoferichter.eu>
>> <mailto:info at hoferichter.eu>
>> To: at-large-icann-academy-ad-hoc-wg at icann.org
>> <mailto:at-large-icann-academy-ad-hoc-wg at icann.org>
>> <mailto:at-large-icann-academy-ad-hoc-wg at icann.org>
>> Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2012 13:42:06 +0200
>> Subject: [ICANN Academy WG] ICANN Academy WG meetings in Toronto confirmed
>>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> the Academy Working Group meetings have now both been confirmed (see:
>> https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Meetings+-+Wednesday%2C+17+October+2012
>> <https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Meetings+-+Wednesday%2c+17+October+2012>
>> ).
>>
>> Academy WG Session 1 - Wed, 17 October between 7:30-9:00 in the
>> Harbour C Room
>> Academy WG Session 2 - Wed, 17 October between 11:00-12:30 in the
>> Regatta Meeting Room
>>
>> The agenda will be uploaded soon but I ask you herewith to pencil
>> these dates in your calendar.
>>
>> Best Sandra
>>
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