[ICANN Academy WG] PILOT - ICANN Leadership Training Programme in Buenos Aires
Tijani BEN JEMAA
tijani.benjemaa at planet.tn
Fri Sep 6 18:01:04 UTC 2013
Yes Avri, you are right.
I read sandra’s mail again, and I found that only the facilitation skill
trainers confirmed the dates of 13-14 November (see below)
I’m sorry for the misunderstanding.
Hi all, I just got this information:
"Unfortunately the trainers of the Incite Learning Facilitation Skills have
confirmed for the dates of 13-14 November. Therefore, the dates for each
will need to remain as originally scheduled."
So the order of the elements remains as it is.
Best Sandra
So the principles we prepared for the selection of the trainees will be used
as planned.
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Tijani BEN JEMAA
Executive Director
Mediterranean Federation of Internet Associations (FMAI)
Phone: + 216 41 649 605
Mobile: + 216 98 330 114
Fax: + 216 70 853 376
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De : at-large-icann-academy-ad-hoc-wg-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org
[mailto:at-large-icann-academy-ad-hoc-wg-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org] De
la part de Avri Doria
Envoyé : vendredi 6 septembre 2013 16:31
À : ICANN Academy WG
Objet : Re: [ICANN Academy WG] PILOT - ICANN Leadership Training Programme
in Buenos Aires
Hi,
I would agree, but I don't think they have been picked yet for the
substantive training sessions, only for the facilitation training.
avri
On 6 Sep 2013, at 10:54, Etienne Tshishimbi wrote:
> Hello everyone,
>
> For my part I agree with Tina DAM and Olga CAVALLI, if trainers are
already chosen, I think we should just give or publish a list of all those
who were retained and thus close all discussions on this point.
>
> Cordially
>
>
> 2013/9/6 Avri Doria <avri at acm.org>
> Hi,
>
> I know the Trainers for the last 2 days are not being compensated. I
assume, thought there still are the expenses on needing to house/feed them
for 4 days (assuming they were coming to BA anyway, if not there was also
flight expenses). I figure this is on a budget somewhere.
>
> On the other training, the facilitation training for which we are not
responsible, I assume the trainers are being paid and there is a budget for
all of that. I was curious about the comparative costs between the two
programs. I assume the budget is transparent and maybe we saw the budget
already, but I don't remember seeing that.
>
> The comparison of budgets is part of an argument that we should not be
pennywise on the budget for the substantive training on the critical issues
before ICANN while spending a lot to teach our leaders some facilitation
techniques that may or may not help in the specific cauldron that is the
ICANN WG/C/SG/AC/SO/Board
>
> thanks
>
> avri
>
> On 6 Sep 2013, at 09:12, Tijani BENJEMAA wrote:
>
> > Hi Avri,
> >
> > I agree with you that the trainers we wrote the principles for their
selection are those of the leadership training only since the facilitation
training has its trainers.
> > As for the budget, it doesn’t include any compensation for the trainers
as I was told (that’s why I removed the compensation from the document
related to the principles for selection of the trainers).
> >
> > Since we have been told that the trainers have agreed on the period,
that means that they are already appointed
..
> >
> >
> >
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> > Tijani BEN JEMAA
> > Executive Director
> > Mediterranean Federation of Internet Associations (FMAI)
> > Phone: + 216 41 649 605
> > Mobile: + 216 98 330 114
> > Fax: + 216 70 853 376
> >
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> >
> > -----Message d'origine-----
> > De : at-large-icann-academy-ad-hoc-wg-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org
[mailto:at-large-icann-academy-ad-hoc-wg-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org] De
la part de Avri Doria
> > Envoyé : vendredi 6 septembre 2013 13:42
> > À : ICANN Academy WG
> > Objet : Re: [ICANN Academy WG] PILOT - ICANN Leadership Training
Programme in Buenos Aires
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I thought the trainers for the 13-14 were attached to the company that
ICANN had brought in to do this training and had nothing to do with any of
us or other usual suspects.
> >
> > It does appear thought, that with trainers for the second part, the one
that sort of involves us, and the whole idea that they prefer trainers who
are also students so they can do it cheaper, may be pennywise but misses the
point of a training event completely. For example, for 2 days of classes,
it looks like ICANN is only willing to sponsor 3 trainers from among the
experienced community.
> >
> > Does anyone know how the budget breaks down for the who 4 days: e.g. how
much for special trainers in group management, versus how much for expert
trainers in the relevant ICANN information?
> >
> > avri
> >
> > On 6 Sep 2013, at 08:16, Hong Xue wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Dear Sandra and all,
> > >
> > > We should note such important information:
> > >
> > >
> > > "Unfortunately the trainers of the Incite Learning Facilitation Skills
have
> > > confirmed for the dates of 13-14 November. Therefore, the dates for
each
> > > will need to remain as originally scheduled."
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > If the trainers for 13-14 November have been "confirmed", may we know
whom they are, although we are not suppose to choose them (I misunderstood
this initially)? Disclosure of these trainers may help us to define and
select the trainers for 15-16 November. If one or more trainers are selected
for both training programs, would that be more cost-effective for traveling
and othe arrangements.
> > >
> > > Hong
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > > Von: at-large-icann-academy-ad-hoc-wg-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org
> > >
[mailto:at-large-icann-academy-ad-hoc-wg-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org] Im
> > > Auftrag von Avri Doria
> > > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 4. September 2013 16:31
> > > An: ICANN Academy WG
> > > Betreff: Re: [ICANN Academy WG] PILOT - ICANN Leadership Training
Programme
> > > in Buenos Aires
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I do not know what other constraints there might be on scheduling,
but this
> > > is an interesting idea.
> > >
> > > One of the things I felt lacking was time for people to follow up on
both
> > > the OL training and the face to face sessions with questions and free
> > > ranging conversation.
> > >
> > > Having the substantive sessions before the methods sessions would
leave
> > > people a chance to discuss in their free time as well as perhaps even
use
> > > some of the topics from the substantive training in the models
training -
> > > which I understand will have role playing and other assorted
exercises.
> > >
> > > Then again as I said, the scheduling may be locked by other
considerations
> > > at this point.
> > >
> > > avri
> > >
> > > On 4 Sep 2013, at 09:46, Tijani BENJEMAA wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Olivier,
> > > >
> > > > I proposed to organize the leadership skill on 13-14 Nov. and the
facility
> > > skills on 15-16 Nov. Why not?
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
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> > > > Tijani BEN JEMAA
> > > > Executive Director
> > > > Mediterranean Federation of Internet Associations (FMAI)
> > > > Phone: + 216 41 649 605
> > > > Mobile: + 216 98 330 114
> > > > Fax: + 216 70 853 376
> > > >
> > >
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> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > De : Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond [mailto:ocl at gih.com]
> > > > Envoyé : mercredi 4 septembre 2013 11:34
> > > > À : tijani.benjemaa at topnet.tn
> > > > Cc : 'sandra hoferichter'; 'ICANN Academy WG'
> > > > Objet : Re: [ICANN Academy WG] PILOT - ICANN Leadership Training
Programme
> > > in Buenos Aires
> > > >
> > > > Dear Tijani,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 04/09/2013 12:26, Tijani BENJEMAA wrote:
> > > > And in case it’s open, I would suggest to organize it on 15-16 Nov.
rather
> > > than 13-14 so that interested people will come 2 days prior to the
ICANN
> > > meeting and not 4 days. I don’t think there is any harm in doing so.
> > > > How could incoming SO/AC leaders be both at the leadership skills
*and*
> > > the facility skills if they take place on the same days?
> > > > The facility skills is before the leadership skills by design so
they can
> > > attend both.
> > > > Kind regards,
> > > >
> > > > Olivier
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