[Internal-cg] Results of chair structure poll
wolf-ulrich.knoben at t-online.de
Sun Aug 3 10:39:44 UTC 2014
it seems we are close to finish. We have so far rough consensus on the
number: 3. We just have to resolve the (mathematical/political) question: 3
= 1+1+1 or 3 = 1+2?
For me personally it doesn't matter. The "leadership" is not a question of
power rather than of the ability to keep the workflow running. If it is
easier to find consensus for 1+1+1 let's move on.
Re one aspect my flexibility is more limited: as already agreed earlier I
support Alissa being chair.
From: Subrenat, Jean-Jacques
Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2014 8:58 PM
To: Alissa Cooper
Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] Results of chair structure poll
Dear Alissa & Colleagues,
I have been asked to convey the following message to you on behalf of the
Dear Interim Chair and Members of the Coordination Group,
In my message dated 26th of July, the ALAC respectfully requested that the
"Chair structure poll" be discontinued and that the decision taken by the
Coordination Group in London on July 18th, which was reached through a
proper process and was duly documented, be implemented.
In summarising the results of the poll, you as Interim Chair concluded that
"There was no clear consensus among respondents about their preference among
the above choices — in fact responses were fairly evenly split among all
four choices." The Coordination Group had reached a consensus during its
face-to-face meeting in London, and it is a matter of great concern for the
ALAC that, after that consensus was reached, some of your members were/are
keen to try to achieve a different consensus, which is unwise and
unwarranted. There was already no rational justification for rescinding the
London decision, and the outcome of your poll now makes it even more
compelling to abide by the vote of the 18th of July.
I wish to express again the ALAC's concern that resorting to ad hoc
processes could well weaken the trust and confidence of the global user
community in the Coordination Group, without which the CG will find it
difficult to propose a transition plan capable of garnering wide and durable
On behalf of the ALAC, I reiterate the request that the poll, now completed,
be simply set aside, on the grounds that it was conducted on an ad hoc
basis, and that the decision taken in London be implemented without further
Chair of the ALAC.
END OF QUOTE.
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De: "Alissa Cooper" <alissa at cooperw.in>
À: "ICG" <internal-cg at icann.org>
Envoyé: Jeudi 31 Juillet 2014 22:59:39
Objet: [Internal-cg] Results of chair structure poll
I have reviewed the results of the chair poll <http://tinyurl.com/ptrr2m6>
and wanted to summarize where I think we are. Twenty-one ICG participants
responded to the poll (out of 30).*
There were four choices for people to provide feedback about in the poll:
One chair with one alternate (“1+1”)
Two co-chairs (“2”)
One chair with two alternates (“1+2”)
Three co-chairs (“3”)
There was no clear consensus among respondents about their preference
among the above choices — in fact responses were fairly evenly split among
all four choices. Ten people preferred the options that would yield two
chairs (1+1 or 2); 11 people preferred options that would yield three
chairs (1+2 or 3). The option preferred by the greatest number of
respondents was (3), with seven responses in favor, compared to five for
(1+1), five for (2), and four for (1+2).
The rationales given for people’s choices related primarily to
organizational concerns (i.e., which structure will make it easiest to
share the workload, determine consensus, organize amongst the chairs
themselves), diversity/balance of many sorts among the chairs, and
political aspects. These rationales were argued in different directions,
for and against the different options — again no consensus that I could
The poll also asked about which options people can’t live with. Five
respondents said they could not live with (3), four said they could not
live with (2), and each of the other options had two respondents each.
Most respondents could live with all four options.
So, it’s not obvious what to do here. Here is my suggestion, in the spirit
We go with one chair and two vice chairs (1+2) where the work is expected
to be divided among all three people. This can mitigate some of the
organizational concerns (since there will be one chair to be the backstop
responsible for getting things done if necessary) while providing three
slots’ worth of opportunity for diversity of different flavors. More
people preferred options that would yield three chairs, so this fits that
bill, and among the two options for that, (1+2) was the less controversial
(most everyone can live with it).
My hope is that people can accept this compromise in the interest of
getting on with the real work at hand -- if you absolutely cannot live
with this, please say so by Aug 5 at 20:00 UTC (if you're ok with it,
hearing that would be helpful too). Assuming people can accept this
approach, I’d like to ask Joe to figure out a process for conducting an
email vote or some such to get people appointed to these roles next week.
* One member of the community also responded.
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