[Internal-cg] FAQ - deadline for comments

Mon Oct 6 22:36:17 UTC 2014

Dear Milton ..

I have overlooked to acknowledge the below suggestion and have
overlooked to add your comment, dated 1 October, in response to Russ' ..
Sincere apologies ..

Dear All ..
Please accept my apologies and let me know if any of your comments or
suggestions is neither added nor addressed in the version circulated
earlier .. 

Kind Regards
--Manal

-----Original Message-----
From: Milton L Mueller [mailto:mueller at syr.edu] 
Sent: Monday, October 06, 2014 11:56 PM
To: Manal Ismail; Alissa Cooper
Cc: Narelle Clark; Kavouss Arasteh; ICG
Subject: RE: FAQ - deadline for comments

Manal and all:

I would suggest that you change this sentence: 
" The ICG seeks complete proposals from the "operational communities"
through processes which are open to participation by "other interested
parties".  

To this: 

The ICG seeks complete proposals from processes convened by the
"operational communities" which are open to participation by "other
interested parties."

The point being, we are not just getting proposals from the OCs, we are
getting them from a process convened by each OC. Confusion about this
has already caused trouble and we do not want to give anyone the wrong
idea that only directly affected parties can participate in the proposal
development process.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Manal Ismail [mailto:manal at tra.gov.eg]
> Sent: Monday, October 6, 2014 5:16 PM
> To: Alissa Cooper
> Cc: Narelle Clark; Kavouss Arasteh; Milton L Mueller; ICG
> Subject: RE: FAQ - deadline for comments
> 
> Thanks Alissa ..
> 
> Dear All ..
> 
> Please find attached, and in Dropbox, version 3, clean and in track
changes ..
> In the clean version, I have:
> - accepted edits by Narelle, all extremely helpful, which I believe 
> have also addressed some of the comments received
> - deleted comments I felt have been addressed
> - deleted questions 8 & 9, for the time being, following the below 
> exchange
> - modified question 7 to read "Does IANA carry out functions other 
> than names, number & protocol identifiers?" and would appreciate help 
> in listing IANA functions not under NTIA contact
> - in addition to Q7, I believe there are unaddressed comments on Q12 &
> Q18
> 
> Looking forward to receiving your comments by 23:59 UTC on October 7
..
> 
> Kind Regards
> --Manal
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alissa Cooper [mailto:alissa at cooperw.in]
> Sent: Monday, October 06, 2014 6:52 PM
> To: Manal Ismail
> Cc: Narelle Clark; Kavouss Arasteh; Milton L Mueller; ICG
> Subject: FAQ - deadline for comments
> 
> All,
> 
> So that we can get a draft, living version of the FAQ posted to the 
> web site prior to ICANN 51, we need to give Manal a little time to 
> compile outstanding comments and create a clean version. Comments sent

> to the list about the FAQ prior to 23:59 UTC on October 7 will be 
> incorporated into the initial version we publish on the web. Of course

> we will continue discussion and refinement of the FAQ after that, but 
> if you want your edits incorporated into the initial version that we
publish, please send them in before the deadline.
> 
> Thanks,
> Alissa
> 
> On Oct 5, 2014, at 3:34 PM, Manal Ismail <manal at tra.gov.eg> wrote:
> 
> > Thanks for the responses ..
> > I believe we have agreed to have a version out before LA, right?
> > If yes, then maybe we should set a cutoff date for comments, after
> which we should compile an agreed version to be posted online, and 
> continue discussing any remaining 'relevant' questions ..
> >
> > Views received so far, which I personally share and Narelle showed
> flexibility, are in favour of deleting Q9 ..
> >
> > As for Q7, I personally agree to deleting it, but allow me to 
> > propose
> a middle ground .. It may be changed to read "Does IANA carry out 
> functions other than names, number & protocol identifiers?", although 
> the answer may be the same, it  would be stating facts rather than 
> predicting outcome of the process .. thoughts?
> >
> > Q8 is one of the questions that were listed for the session held at
> the IGF, but I agree to its deletion ..
> >
> > Waiting for further comments before compiling a new version ..
> >
> > Kind Regards
> > --Manal
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: internal-cg-bounces at icann.org
> > [mailto:internal-cg-bounces at icann.org] On Behalf Of Narelle Clark
> > Sent: Friday, October 03, 2014 2:56 AM
> > To: Kavouss Arasteh; Milton L Mueller
> > Cc: internal-cg at icann.org
> > Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] ICG FAQ ..
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Kavouss Arasteh [mailto:kavouss.arasteh at gmail.com]
> >> Sent: Friday, 3 October 2014 5:01 AM
> >>
> >> I agree with Milton in regard with IANA INVOKING POWER .However, I 
> >> would like to know whether the replacement of NTIA ,if any, would 
> >> have the same or would excercise the same power?
> >
> > Like I said, I am not wed to the inclusion of the question re
> invocation of power. As they say, I was merely flying a kite as it is 
> a question I have been frequently receiving.
> >
> > To the latter question, that surely is up to the communities to
> propose and decide.
> >
> > And a good question, indeed.
> >
> >> In regard with his second comment, I am not sure that we should 
> >> limit
> 
> >> ourselcves to say  about who were are; what we do; how to respond 
> >> to our RFP; the respective roles of the ICG, operational 
> >> communities, USG; how people can get involved in any of those
activities.
> >> I do not see any problem if we could provide information on IANA, 
> >> the
> 
> >> IANA transition, and ICANN accountability
> >
> > I agree they are questions people need and want answers to. Whether 
> > we
> should be the ones to provide them is subject to how much time we have

> as it can be a long diversion...
> >
> > The risk is that it dilutes our credibility as impartial 
> > coordinators
> of the community finding its own answers.
> >
> >
> > Best regards
> >
> >
> > Narelle
> >
> >
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