[IOT] IRP-IOT call 8 August 2023: Agenda
Greg Shatan
gregshatanipc at gmail.com
Tue Aug 22 15:36:10 UTC 2023
I will also be 30 minutes late.
Greg
On Tue, Aug 22, 2023 at 11:02 Becky Burr via IOT <iot at icann.org> wrote:
> Please accept my advance apologies, I will join today's call 30 minutes
> late.
>
> Becky
>
> On Tue, Aug 22, 2023 at 10:56 AM Susan Payne via IOT <iot at icann.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Many thanks to Mike for your proposal and to Kavous for your comments.
>>
>>
>>
>> Kavous, I would like to be sure I understand your point with respect to
>> the first example:
>>
>> - If I understand correctly, you are expressing disagreement with the
>> basis of the IRP claim that was brought in this case and the resulting
>> decision;
>> - In such a situation, are you nevertheless saying that you do *not*
>> support ICANN being required to notify the applicant for that TLD that
>> there has been an IRP filed?
>>
>>
>>
>> Susan Payne
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>> *From:* IOT <iot-bounces at icann.org> *On Behalf Of *Arasteh via IOT
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 22, 2023 9:08 AM
>> *To:* Mike Rodenbaugh <mike at rodenbaugh.com>
>> *Cc:* iot at icann.org
>> *Subject:* Re: [IOT] IRP-IOT call 8 August 2023: Agenda
>>
>>
>>
>> Dear all
>>
>> I could agree with Mike for the second case but DISAGREE for tge first
>> case
>>
>> In the first example the application was terminated inappropriately due
>> to an invalid decision mixing up a an unfounded political
>> Claim created from a political slogan in 1956 which did not have any
>> valid ground
>>
>> The applicant should have strongly objected to the IRP conclusions
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Arasteh
>>
>> Envoyé de mon iPhone
>>
>>
>>
>> Le 21 août 2023 à 22:51, Mike Rodenbaugh via IOT <iot at icann.org> a
>> écrit :
>>
>>
>>
>> As discussed on our call last week, I propose that the Rules require
>> ICANN to notify gTLD applicants of an IRP complaint that seeks relief
>> materially affecting their application. The time period for the notified
>> applicants to file a request for intervention would begin on the notice
>> date.
>>
>>
>>
>> We have seen two scenarios in the first round.
>>
>>
>>
>> 1. IRP Claimant is not an applicant. This happened re the .PersianGulf
>> TLD application. IRP filed by a government requesting ICANN to terminate
>> the application.
>>
>>
>>
>> 2. IRP Claimant is applicant within a Contention Set. This happened
>> many times, including re .Merck, .Hotel and .Web.
>>
>>
>>
>> ICANN knows how to notify all gTLD applicants, as contact info is
>> required in each application. And, ICANN can easily tell from the face of
>> an IRP complaint whether it seeks relief that would materially affect a
>> gTLD application. In such cases, ICANN should provide notice to the
>> affected applicants and allow them opportunity to intervene.
>>
>>
>>
>> [image: Logo]
>>
>> *Mike Rodenbaugh*
>>
>> *address:*
>>
>> 548 Market Street, Box 55819
>>
>> San Francisco, CA 94104
>>
>> *email:*
>>
>> mike at rodenbaugh.com
>>
>> *phone:*
>>
>> +1 (415) 738-8087
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 8, 2023 at 9:29 AM Susan Payne via IOT <iot at icann.org> wrote:
>>
>> All
>>
>> I am attaching a comparison document between the ICDR rule on
>> Consolidation and the small team proposal. The column on the left has a
>> high level summary and the full text of the ICDR rule; on the right is the
>> equivalent for the Small team’s proposed IRP Supplementary procedures and
>> also gives a high level indication of how the current rules deal.
>>
>>
>>
>> I produced this for my own benefit to assist when reviewing the ICDR
>> process, but think that it could actually help us to structure our
>> discussion on agenda item 3. There is no need to have reviewed this
>> therefore in advance, but it will hopefully be a convenient way to display
>> the relevant texts.
>>
>>
>>
>> Susan Payne
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>> *From:* IOT <iot-bounces at icann.org> *On Behalf Of *Susan Payne via IOT
>> *Sent:* Monday, August 7, 2023 5:44 PM
>> *To:* iot at icann.org
>> *Subject:* [IOT] IRP-IOT call 8 August 2023: Agenda
>>
>>
>>
>> All, please see below the agenda for our call tomorrow
>>
>>
>>
>> 1. Review agenda and updates to SOIs
>> 2. Action items:
>>
>>
>> - BT to circulate text of the ICDR rule on consolidation
>>
>> i. Done:
>> Art 8 Consolidation (page 18)
>>
>> - All to review, with particular regard to the consolidation process
>> and role of the consolidation arbitrator and come to the meeting ready to
>> discuss
>>
>>
>> 1. Discussion on the ICDR process for consolidation
>> 2. Continue review and discussion of other elements of the small
>> team’s proposed revision to Rule 7, to the extent not addressed by the
>> above
>> 3. AOB
>> 4. Next call 15 August 1800 UTC
>>
>>
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