[IOT] Fwd: IRP-IOT call 8 August 2023: Agenda
Mike Rodenbaugh
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Tue Aug 29 18:52:07 UTC 2023
resurfacing this thread
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From: Becky Burr <becky.burr at board.icann.org>
Date: Tue, Aug 22, 2023 at 10:48 AM
Subject: Re: [IOT] IRP-IOT call 8 August 2023: Agenda
To: Mike Rodenbaugh <mike at rodenbaugh.com>
Cc: Becky Burr <BBurr at hwglaw.com>, IOT at ICANN.ORG <iot at icann.org>
that seems workable, Mike.
On Tue, Aug 22, 2023 at 1:15 PM Mike Rodenbaugh via IOT <iot at icann.org>
wrote:
> Hi Becky, (copying in the list, as I suspect you intended)
>
> I agree with your point that 'materially affected' is somewhat
> subjective. How about this?
>
> where the gTLD string that is the subject of the IRP is the same as, or is
> a translation, transliteration or IDN of, or is a plural of, the
> applied-for string
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> Mike Rodenbaugh
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> address:
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> 548 Market Street, Box 55819
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> San Francisco, CA 94104
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> email:
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> mike at rodenbaugh.com
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> On Tue, Aug 22, 2023 at 7:37 AM Becky Burr <BBurr at hwglaw.com> wrote:
>
>> "materially affecting" is ambiguous and will no doubt lead to further
>> disputes. I would be more comfortable if the standard required ICANN to
>> notify an applicant where the string that is the subject of the IRP is the
>> same as or merely a plural of the applied for string.
>>
>>
>>
>> J. Beckwith Burr
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>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* IOT <iot-bounces at icann.org> on behalf of Arasteh via IOT <
>> iot at icann.org>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 22, 2023 4:07:45 AM
>> *To:* Mike Rodenbaugh
>> *Cc:* iot at icann.org
>> *Subject:* Re: [IOT] IRP-IOT call 8 August 2023: Agenda
>>
>> Dear all
>> I could agree with Mike for the second case but DISAGREE for tge first
>> case
>> In the first example the application was terminated inappropriately due
>> to an invalid decision mixing up a an unfounded political
>> Claim created from a political slogan in 1956 which did not have any
>> valid ground
>> The applicant should have strongly objected to the IRP conclusions
>> Regards
>> Arasteh
>> Envoyé de mon iPhone
>>
>> Le 21 août 2023 à 22:51, Mike Rodenbaugh via IOT <iot at icann.org> a
>> écrit :
>>
>>
>> As discussed on our call last week, I propose that the Rules require
>> ICANN to notify gTLD applicants of an IRP complaint that seeks relief
>> materially affecting their application. The time period for the notified
>> applicants to file a request for intervention would begin on the notice
>> date.
>>
>> We have seen two scenarios in the first round.
>>
>> 1. IRP Claimant is not an applicant. This happened re the .PersianGulf
>> TLD application. IRP filed by a government requesting ICANN to terminate
>> the application.
>>
>> 2. IRP Claimant is applicant within a Contention Set. This happened
>> many times, including re .Merck, .Hotel and .Web.
>>
>> ICANN knows how to notify all gTLD applicants, as contact info is
>> required in each application. And, ICANN can easily tell from the face of
>> an IRP complaint whether it seeks relief that would materially affect a
>> gTLD application. In such cases, ICANN should provide notice to the
>> affected applicants and allow them opportunity to intervene.
>>
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>> Mike Rodenbaugh
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>> address:
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>> 548 Market Street, Box 55819
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>> San Francisco, CA 94104
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>> email:
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>> mike at rodenbaugh.com
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>> phone:
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>> +1 (415) 738-8087
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>>
>> On Tue, Aug 8, 2023 at 9:29 AM Susan Payne via IOT <iot at icann.org> wrote:
>>
>>> All
>>>
>>> I am attaching a comparison document between the ICDR rule on
>>> Consolidation and the small team proposal. The column on the left has a
>>> high level summary and the full text of the ICDR rule; on the right is the
>>> equivalent for the Small team’s proposed IRP Supplementary procedures and
>>> also gives a high level indication of how the current rules deal.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I produced this for my own benefit to assist when reviewing the ICDR
>>> process, but think that it could actually help us to structure our
>>> discussion on agenda item 3. There is no need to have reviewed this
>>> therefore in advance, but it will hopefully be a convenient way to display
>>> the relevant texts.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Susan Payne
>>> Head of Legal Policy
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>>> *From:* IOT <iot-bounces at icann.org> *On Behalf Of *Susan Payne via IOT
>>> *Sent:* Monday, August 7, 2023 5:44 PM
>>> *To:* iot at icann.org
>>> *Subject:* [IOT] IRP-IOT call 8 August 2023: Agenda
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> All, please see below the agenda for our call tomorrow
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 1. Review agenda and updates to SOIs
>>> 2. Action items:
>>> - BT to circulate text of the ICDR rule on consolidation
>>>
>>> i. Done:
>>> Art 8 Consolidation (page 18)
>>>
>>> - All to review, with particular regard to the consolidation process
>>> and role of the consolidation arbitrator and come to the meeting ready to
>>> discuss
>>> 1. Discussion on the ICDR process for consolidation
>>> 2. Continue review and discussion of other elements of the small
>>> team’s proposed revision to Rule 7, to the extent not addressed by the
>>> above
>>> 3. AOB
>>> 4. Next call 15 August 1800 UTC
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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