[NCAP-Discuss] Top-level Domains for Private Internets IETF draft

Mon Jun 15 14:44:26 UTC 2020

Jeff,

Roy has, as an individual and not in any way in relation to ICANN (other than he happens to work at ICANN), co-authored a proposal to document a convention of using the ISO-3166 “user defined” codes as private namespaces that are impossible to ever collide with any names allocated by ICANN.  His and Ed's Internet Draft documents the other technical uses of ISO-3166 codes. Since he is proposing the 2-letter codes identified by ISO-3166/MA (not ICANN) as “user defined” for a set of private name spaces that are not exclusive of what the GNSO may or may not propose, it isn’t clear how this interacts with GNSO policy.  Could you explain?

Thanks,
-drc

> On Jun 15, 2020, at 6:40 AM, Jeff Neuman <jeff.neuman at comlaude.com> wrote:
> 
> Roy,
> 
> Why have you chosen to take this through the IETF track as opposed to taking it through the ICANN process.  Seems to me that this is all about policy and very little about technical information in this Informational RFC.
> 
> These are the very things that should be dealt with in the ICANN policy processes.  The notion of creating namespaces for private use is purely policy and therefore dealing with this through the IETF, in my opinion, is not how we should be thinking about this.  Sure, it may be easier to get this type of thing through the IETF, but we should be more focused on improving the multi-stakeholder model to allow these types of discussions rather than trying to circumvent it.
> 
> Has this been submitted to the GNSO?
> 
> Jeff Neuman
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: NCAP-Discuss <ncap-discuss-bounces at icann.org <mailto:ncap-discuss-bounces at icann.org>> On Behalf Of Roy Arends
> Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 12:16 PM
> To: Dmitry Belyavsky <beldmit at gmail.com <mailto:beldmit at gmail.com>>
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> Subject: Re: [NCAP-Discuss] Top-level Domains for Private Internets IETF draft
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> I want to make a disclaimer here for complete transparency:
> 
> I am the editor of that document. This draft is my individual submission and does not present an opinion, endorsement or anything like that from ICANN, ICANN affiliate (such as PTI) or the ICANN community.
> 
> Warmly,
> 
> Roy Arends
> ICANN staff member in the Office of the CTO.
> 
> 
>> On 12 Jun 2020, at 16:50, Dmitry Belyavsky <beldmit at gmail.com <mailto:beldmit at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> I want to draw everybody's attention to the IETF draft "Top-level
>> Domains for Private Internets"
>> (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-arends-private-use-tld/ <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-arends-private-use-tld/>)
>> 
>> I think it should be taken to account in the group's upcoming analysis.
>> 
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