[NCAP-Discuss] Name collisions dataset comparisons discussion

[James Galvin]

Thanks Jeff for the excellent summary.  I have a question regarding how 
the resistance to manipulation was determined for each of the datasets 
described.

I believe there are two places to consider manipulation resistance: one 
is with the data itself and one is with how the data is used.

I do not understand how any of the data collection itself is resistant 
to manipulation?  In all cases you are collecting the same data and in 
all cases the same malefactors could provide data. Thus, in all cases, 
none of the datasets themselves are resistant to manipulation.

What mitigates manipulation, which I believe we are trying to say in the 
report, is the comparison of the data collected to historical data, 
i.e., analysis of the trends that can be discerned and considered during 
the name collision assessment.

As far as I understand, all of these datasets are equally vulnerable to 
manipulation and equally resistant to manipulation.

Please help me understand what I’m missing.


Separately, with respect to the “Notes” column, if that column is to 
be included in the report in any way then I have concerns. However, as 
points of discussion for the group I do not have any concerns.  Let’s 
see where the discussion goes today and going forward.

Thanks again!

Jim



On 19 Apr 2023, at 10:24, Jeff Schmidt via NCAP-Discuss wrote:

> Hello all!
>
> A number of datasets have been discussed over the past years – some 
> of these are existing datasets and some are new datasets that NCAP has 
> proposed creating/collecting. All of these datasets have different 
> contents, qualities, use cases, strengths, and weaknesses given the 
> intended purpose. As with everything collisions related, there are no 
> perfect solutions (and no perfect datasets) – everything is a series 
> of trade-offs.
>
> I have attempted to consolidate summaries of the datasets into a 
> comparison table to help clarify the large number of issues in flight. 
> Please see attached. During the call today I will walk through these 
> items and hope to inspire discussion. My hope is that a summary of 
> this variety would be a useful addition to our final report.
>
> Thanks talk soon!
> Jeff

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