[NCAP-Discuss] Tool names

Rod Rasmussen rod at rodrasmussen.com
Fri Dec 8 01:08:47 UTC 2023


I’m a big fan of “visible interruption” as a term here for many reasons.  Amongst others, it makes it far easier to explain the differences to non-techies.  I also prefer keeping the prior art term of “controlled interruption” for the reasons Casey stated, but also feel that “concealed” isn’t quite accurate (it’s really just “locally visible”) and presents a nefarious implication.

Cheers,

Rod

> On Dec 7, 2023, at 7:16 AM, Anne ICANN <anneicanngnso at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Agreed Casey.  Your approach makes sense.
> Anne
> 
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> On Thu, Dec 7, 2023 at 8:12 AM Casey Deccio <casey at deccio.net <mailto:casey at deccio.net>> wrote:
>> In yesterday's discussion about this, it was suggested that something different be used instead of "public interruption" (the "Transport-Layer Rejection at Public IP" option).  I agree.  Rubens suggested "Visible Interruption".  I like that!  He also suggested "concealed interruption" for tool 2.  I personally prefer keeping "controlled interruption" for tool 2 one because it already has a history, and I would hate to always have to be saying "formerly known as controlled interruption".
>> 
>> I present it to the group for your thoughts and consensus.
>> 
>> Tool 1: DNS NODATA Response ("No interruption")
>> 
>> Tool 2: Transport-Layer Rejection at Local System ("Controlled Interruption")
>> 
>> Tool 3: (UPDATED) Transport-Layer Rejection at Public IP ("Visible Interruption")
>> 
>> Tool 4: (UPDATED) Transport-Layer Rejection and Application-Layer Notification at Public IP ("Visible Interruption and Notification")
>> 
>> Casey
>> 
>> 
>> > On Dec 5, 2023, at 10:38 AM, Casey Deccio <casey at deccio.net <mailto:casey at deccio.net>> wrote:
>> > 
>> > In the document and in the slides, the descriptions are converging, but there is little consistency with regard to the relatively "short" names of the tools.  This makes it hard to talk about them in the document, the slides, and anywhere else.  Here is a proposal:
>> > 
>> > Tool 1: DNS NODATA Response ("No interruption")
>> > 
>> > (Note that it doesn't go into implementation detail with HINFO but just sticks to the behavior.)
>> > 
>> > Tool 2: Transport-Layer Rejection at Local System ("Controlled Interruption")
>> > 
>> > (Note that it doesn't mention DNS, which is inferred from the fact that there is transport-layer communication happening (even if it is being rejected), and it doesn't get into the IP address 127.0.53.53, which will certainly be in the description and details.)
>> > 
>> > Tool 3: Transport-Layer Rejection at Public IP ("Public Interruption")
>> > 
>> > (Note again that it doesn't mention DNS, which is inferred from the fact that there is transport-layer communication happening (even if it is being rejected), and it simply mentions the IP address as "public".)
>> > 
>> > 
>> > Tool 4: Transport-Layer Rejection and Application-Layer Notification at Public IP ("Public Interruption and Notification")
>> > 
>> > (Same as previous.)
>> > 
>> > Casey
>> 
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