[Npoc-discuss] Internet Infrastructure and Sea Level Rise: Food/Question for Thought

Olivier Kouami olivierkouami at gmail.com
Thu Oct 31 08:17:33 UTC 2019


Greetings everyone from Lomé Togo.
+1 @all, first.
I'm following up this discussion and found it really interesting.
It's true that ICANN's interest in this IG ecosystem is at the logical
layer with a sound impact on socio-economical layer. With the notice that
most of the infrastructure layer, wich is the basical layer of the IG
ecosystem, belong to multinationales privates companies (90% of the all
backbone).
Finally, it's a struggle between the consumers and producers.
Anyway, my concern is the fact the NPOC is an invention of  the ICANN org,
like so, is it really possible to add another tasks, which are not among
the goals of the ICANN, to NPOC's charter ?
Please, could Sam cited an exemple of an ICANN's SG or AC or C which are
already behaving like that ?
It's my question.

Thank you, in adavance, for your clarifications.

Warm regards.
Olévié


Le mer. 30 oct. 2019 à 14:46, Poncelet Ileleji <pileleji at ymca.gm> a écrit :

> Spot on Sam,
>
> Way to go 👍🏿
>
> Poncelet
>
> On Wednesday, 30 October 2019, Sam Lanfranco <lanfran at yorku.ca> wrote:
>
>> Poncelet,
>>
>> Thank you for your comments. I agree that the looming crisis around
>> Internet Infrastructure and Sea Level Rise is not central to ICANN's
>> mandate, and do not see it as occupying a central position on the ICANN
>> agenda. But, as multiple stakeholder constituencies we (including ICANN and
>> ICANN org) have to press for greater attention elsewhere, where stakeholder
>> awareness and engagement are raised with regard to such issues.
>>
>> The IGF is one of those venues and I support NPOC developing a strategy
>> (say as NPOC org, with an independent budget and above and beyond its ICANN
>> constituency existence) to take on such tasks.
>>
>> I remind us that this is more or less how the other ICANN constituencies
>> operate outside ICANN, targeting their efforts at areas that impact their
>> core interests. Our interests are two fold, the impact of the Internet
>> ecosystem on the NGO, not-for-profit, community constituency, and on "the
>> public good". Within NPOC we focus on the DNS, but our concerns are wider.
>> This is a good opportunity to mature NPOC as a concerned constituency
>> within the challenges facing the wider Internet ecosystem.
>>
>> <*Food for though*>
>>
>> Sam L.
>>
>> ---- Original Message ----
>> *From*: Poncelet Ileleji <pileleji at ymca.gm>
>> *To*: "Sam Lanfranco" <sam at lanfranco.net>
>> *Cc*: "NPOC Discuss" <npoc-discuss at icann.org>
>> *Sent*: Wed, Oct 30, 2019, 5:32 AM
>> *Subject*: Re: [Npoc-discuss] Internet Infrastructure and Sea Level
>> Rise: Food/Question for Thought
>>
>> Hello Sam,
>>
>> I think it’s more of an issue within the overall internet governance
>> domain so within Berlin discuss we can do it. As under the realm of ICANN
>> we won’t get far with the discuss as it centers on infrastructure not DNS.
>>
>> Our chair @Joan can see how we can promote it within the global IGF as
>> per NPOC and within our regional gatherings.
>>
>> Just my little thoughts
>>
>> Poncelet
>>
>> On Wednesday, 30 October 2019, Sam Lanfranco <sam at lanfranco.net> wrote:
>>
>>> NPOC colleagues,
>>>
>>> I am raising this within the NPOC discussion group because I want to get
>>> a sense of whether this is an issue that should be somewhere on the ICANN
>>> agenda. At a minimum ICANN and its communities are constituent stakeholders
>>> in this issue.Most analysis sees serious problems within 15 years.
>>>
>>> Much of the Internet’s physical infrastructure is situated in locations
>>> close to coastal shorelines, connected to the half-million miles of
>>> undersea cables. New estimates of sea level rise driven by climate change
>>> have tripled earlier estimates of global vulnerability to sea-level rise
>>> and coastal flooding.
>>> https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-019-12808-z
>>> <https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-019-12808-z>
>>>
>>> The impact of this on human habitation, and human migration, will be
>>> catastrophic. Estimates are that by mid-century up to 340 million people
>>> will live on land below projected annual flood levels. Current estimates
>>> put one billion people now occupying land less than 10 meters above current
>>> high tide lines, including 250 million living below 1 meter above current
>>> high tide lines. These populations will become a migration tsunami. But
>>> that is not the issue I want to raise here.
>>>
>>> *The impact of sea level rise on the infrastructure of the Internet
>>> ecosystem will be equally catastrophic and is approaching fast.* Rather
>>> than belaboring the point that some action is necessary here, I will just
>>> share a short bibliography on the subject. *Do we need a discussion?*
>>>
>>> Sam Lanfranco
>>>
>>> The Internet May Be Underwater in 15 Years:  *https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/2018/07/news-internet-underwater-sea-level-rise/
>>> <https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/2018/07/news-internet-underwater-sea-level-rise/>*
>>>
>>> Buried Internet infrastructure at risk as sea levels rise:
>>> https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/07/180716141627.htm
>>>
>>> Rising Seas Could Cause Problems for Internet Infrastructure
>>> https://biodiversityfunders.org/rising-seas-could-cause-problems-for-internet-infrastructure/
>>>
>>> Sea Level Rise to Jeopardize U.S. Internet Infrastructure In 15 Years
>>> https://www.forbes.com/sites/federicoguerrini/2018/08/11/sea-level-rise-to-jeopardise-u-s-internet-infrastructure-in-15-years-study-says/#1fdac65a7cb0
>>>
>>> Internet infrastructure will be inundated as sea levels rise:
>>> *https://www.networkworld.com/article/3290250/internet-infrastructure-will-be-inundated-as-sea-levels-rise-says-report.html
>>> <https://www.networkworld.com/article/3290250/internet-infrastructure-will-be-inundated-as-sea-levels-rise-says-report.html>
>>> *
>>>
>>> Key Internet Connections and Locations are at Risk from Rising Seas:
>>> https://www.americanscientist.org/article/key-internet-connections-and-locations-are-at-risk-from-rising-seas
>>>
>>> The internet is at risk from rising sea levels | World Economic Forum:
>>> https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2018/07/rising-sea-levels-are-coming-for-the-internet
>>>
>>> Rising sea levels are going to mess with the internet, sooner than you
>>> think:  https://www.popsci.com/sea-level-rise-internet-infrastructure/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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