[Npoc-discuss] The new charter of NPOC - members' review

Tue Sep 17 11:26:02 UTC 2019

+1 @David.
We should notre.

Le mar. 17 sept. 2019 à 10:26, Poncelet Ileleji <pileleji at ymca.gm> a écrit :

> +1 David
>
> Thanks for this contribution
>
> Poncelet
>
> On Tue, 17 Sep 2019 at 01:39, David Cake <dave at davecake.net> wrote:
>
>> If your primary reason to be in NPOC is to not be in NCUC, you should not
>> be in NPOC. You should join the NCSG and not join any of its constituencies
>> if you do not qualify or want to be in either of them.
>>
>> The NPOC mission IS to represent non-profits.
>>
>> I can see some special cases for people specifically involved in
>> non-profits, such as someone who retired from a non-profit position or
>> otherwise is heavily involved in the non-profit - some provision has been
>> made, I think they would still be best left as observers.
>>
>> The idea that we should allows individuals just to allow people who feel
>> more ‘aligned’ with NPOC
>>
>> I also know Government people in other countries who are aligned with At
>> Large/NPOC but feel they cannot join either of these groups even if that is
>> their passion because of their employment
>>
>>
>> You know people who can’t join NPOC because they aren’t a non-profit? The
>> system seems to be working correctly.
>> Honesty the argument that we should allow people who work to the
>> government to join because of their ‘alignment with At Large/NPOC’ has
>> strongly convinced me that we shouldn’t.
>>
>>
>> David
>>
>> On 13 Sep 2019, at 9:00 pm, Judith Hellerstein <judith at jhellerstein.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi
>> I disagree. A person may wish to be active in npoc because they believe
>> in their mission, goals and objectives but do not believe in ncuc, so you
>> are in effect saying no we do not want you? Why? What is the harm? The goal
>> is to have active reps who believe and advocate and are active on the npoc
>> mission so why exclude people. There are many reasons why you may want to
>> join as an individual, ranging from you are in the govt, your org is not
>> interested in applying or the org will not appoint you, you do not have an
>> org whom you belong to who meets your own values
>>
>> Judith
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> Judith at jhellerstein.com
>> Skype ID:Judithhellerstein
>>
>> On Sep 13, 2019, at 7:45 AM, Poncelet Ileleji <pileleji at ymca.gm> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Remmy,
>>
>> Individual members is a no no no BIG NO, we solely NGO focused it won't
>> change.  You want to be individual go NCUC.  So our mission is definitely
>> correct and should stay as it is.  We done with the charter for me, Roaul
>> did a great work on this, so why take us back on something that is done and
>> dusted Remmy, time to move on.
>>
>> Please Raoul lets move on. kudos to your work.
>>
>> Thank you
>>
>>
>> Poncelet
>>
>> On Fri, 13 Sep 2019 at 11:07, Remmy Nweke <remmyn at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Raoul
>>> Nice to have this mission added.
>>>
>>> However, for a start, its solely about NGOs and since we have
>>> consideration for individual members I think such should reflect in the
>>> mission statement.
>>> Regards for now
>>> Remmy
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Sep 13, 2019, 9:24 AM Raoul Plommer <plommer at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> For some explicable reason, the 1.2., i.e. our mission was omitted from
>>>> the draft. Here it is below. I've also added it to the working document of
>>>> the charter.
>>>>
>>>> "1.2 NPOC’s mission is to represent Not-for-Profit Organizations by
>>>> addressing their operational concerns with the generic Top-level Domains
>>>> (gTLDs). Operational Concerns are defined as issues arising from the use of
>>>> the gTLDs by the not-for-profit organizations to achieve their own mission.
>>>> Those can include but are not limited to Domain Name Fraud, Intellectual
>>>> Property Abuse, Privacy, Security, Stability, and Resiliency, as well as
>>>> transparent registration and continued ownership of domain names."
>>>>
>>>> I went through the suggestions and there was nothing major, as far as I
>>>> could see. I resolved the comments and if you're happy with the above
>>>> mission statement as well, we can send the charter to its next phase of the
>>>> review process. Enjoy your weekend!
>>>>
>>>> -Raoul
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, 30 Aug 2019 at 22:45, Olivier Kouami <olivierkouami at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello dearest.all.
>>>>> Thanks you for the update Raoul.
>>>>> I'll pass.through ans.seen.the.work done.since about 5 Yeats now.
>>>>> You're welcome.
>>>>> Regards.
>>>>> Olévié
>>>>>
>>>>> Le ven. 30 août 2019 à 16:52, Remmy Nweke <remmyn at gmail.com> a écrit :
>>>>>
>>>>>> Welcome to our team the journey so far on this improved charter.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 30, 2019, 8:54 AM Raoul Plommer <plommer at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dear members of NPOC,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We have finished the work on our charter in July but I wanted to
>>>>>>> have one thorough look before sending it to you for accepting it. Sorry for
>>>>>>> taking so long in finally getting round to doing it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Here is the working version and with this link you can comment on
>>>>>>> it. After we've gone through all the comments of the members, we'll pass it
>>>>>>> to ICANN law for a review.
>>>>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HRcUOxtoMUzJnfXhXm-wpJd3vDmVRG9uFTRyojOAbxo/edit?usp=sharing
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The deadline for giving comments is 13th of September, which also
>>>>>>> happens to be Friday. :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> At the end of the charter, you can also find a link to the annex,
>>>>>>> but it's unfinished at the moment, and we still need to work on it before
>>>>>>> passing it for you to review.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Raoul
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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