[Npoc-discuss] The new charter of NPOC - members' review

Tue Sep 17 09:25:51 UTC 2019

+1 David

Thanks for this contribution

Poncelet

On Tue, 17 Sep 2019 at 01:39, David Cake <dave at davecake.net> wrote:

> If your primary reason to be in NPOC is to not be in NCUC, you should not
> be in NPOC. You should join the NCSG and not join any of its constituencies
> if you do not qualify or want to be in either of them.
>
> The NPOC mission IS to represent non-profits.
>
> I can see some special cases for people specifically involved in
> non-profits, such as someone who retired from a non-profit position or
> otherwise is heavily involved in the non-profit - some provision has been
> made, I think they would still be best left as observers.
>
> The idea that we should allows individuals just to allow people who feel
> more ‘aligned’ with NPOC
>
> I also know Government people in other countries who are aligned with At
> Large/NPOC but feel they cannot join either of these groups even if that is
> their passion because of their employment
>
>
> You know people who can’t join NPOC because they aren’t a non-profit? The
> system seems to be working correctly.
> Honesty the argument that we should allow people who work to the
> government to join because of their ‘alignment with At Large/NPOC’ has
> strongly convinced me that we shouldn’t.
>
>
> David
>
> On 13 Sep 2019, at 9:00 pm, Judith Hellerstein <judith at jhellerstein.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hi
> I disagree. A person may wish to be active in npoc because they believe in
> their mission, goals and objectives but do not believe in ncuc, so you are
> in effect saying no we do not want you? Why? What is the harm? The goal is
> to have active reps who believe and advocate and are active on the npoc
> mission so why exclude people. There are many reasons why you may want to
> join as an individual, ranging from you are in the govt, your org is not
> interested in applying or the org will not appoint you, you do not have an
> org whom you belong to who meets your own values
>
> Judith
>
> Sent from my iPhone
> Judith at jhellerstein.com
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>
> On Sep 13, 2019, at 7:45 AM, Poncelet Ileleji <pileleji at ymca.gm> wrote:
>
> Hi Remmy,
>
> Individual members is a no no no BIG NO, we solely NGO focused it won't
> change.  You want to be individual go NCUC.  So our mission is definitely
> correct and should stay as it is.  We done with the charter for me, Roaul
> did a great work on this, so why take us back on something that is done and
> dusted Remmy, time to move on.
>
> Please Raoul lets move on. kudos to your work.
>
> Thank you
>
>
> Poncelet
>
> On Fri, 13 Sep 2019 at 11:07, Remmy Nweke <remmyn at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Raoul
>> Nice to have this mission added.
>>
>> However, for a start, its solely about NGOs and since we have
>> consideration for individual members I think such should reflect in the
>> mission statement.
>> Regards for now
>> Remmy
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 13, 2019, 9:24 AM Raoul Plommer <plommer at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> For some explicable reason, the 1.2., i.e. our mission was omitted from
>>> the draft. Here it is below. I've also added it to the working document of
>>> the charter.
>>>
>>> "1.2 NPOC’s mission is to represent Not-for-Profit Organizations by
>>> addressing their operational concerns with the generic Top-level Domains
>>> (gTLDs). Operational Concerns are defined as issues arising from the use of
>>> the gTLDs by the not-for-profit organizations to achieve their own mission.
>>> Those can include but are not limited to Domain Name Fraud, Intellectual
>>> Property Abuse, Privacy, Security, Stability, and Resiliency, as well as
>>> transparent registration and continued ownership of domain names."
>>>
>>> I went through the suggestions and there was nothing major, as far as I
>>> could see. I resolved the comments and if you're happy with the above
>>> mission statement as well, we can send the charter to its next phase of the
>>> review process. Enjoy your weekend!
>>>
>>> -Raoul
>>>
>>> On Fri, 30 Aug 2019 at 22:45, Olivier Kouami <olivierkouami at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello dearest.all.
>>>> Thanks you for the update Raoul.
>>>> I'll pass.through ans.seen.the.work done.since about 5 Yeats now.
>>>> You're welcome.
>>>> Regards.
>>>> Olévié
>>>>
>>>> Le ven. 30 août 2019 à 16:52, Remmy Nweke <remmyn at gmail.com> a écrit :
>>>>
>>>>> Welcome to our team the journey so far on this improved charter.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Aug 30, 2019, 8:54 AM Raoul Plommer <plommer at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear members of NPOC,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We have finished the work on our charter in July but I wanted to have
>>>>>> one thorough look before sending it to you for accepting it. Sorry for
>>>>>> taking so long in finally getting round to doing it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Here is the working version and with this link you can comment on it.
>>>>>> After we've gone through all the comments of the members, we'll pass it to
>>>>>> ICANN law for a review.
>>>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HRcUOxtoMUzJnfXhXm-wpJd3vDmVRG9uFTRyojOAbxo/edit?usp=sharing
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The deadline for giving comments is 13th of September, which also
>>>>>> happens to be Friday. :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> At the end of the charter, you can also find a link to the annex, but
>>>>>> it's unfinished at the moment, and we still need to work on it before
>>>>>> passing it for you to review.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Raoul
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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