[Npoc-discuss] The new charter of NPOC - members' review

Thu Sep 19 10:28:34 UTC 2019

+1 Raoul
Thanks again for clarity on the thinking behind it

On Thu, 19 Sep 2019 at 10:12, Raoul Plommer <plommer at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Judith, Dave and others,
>
> We approached this question of allowing individual members to join NPOC
> more than once but wanted to keep it as it has been, thus avoiding more
> structural changes that could give reason for contesting the new charter
> even within the NCSG. We will allow for observers, who are interested in
> NPOC as well subject matter experts, so anyone can participate in working
> for NPOC's goals, even if they weren't an official member.
>
> The bold sentence that Remmy highlighted, means that we can, in some
> extraordinary circumstances, allow a not-for-profit organisation as a
> member even if they are not a government registered entity. An example of
> this, could be an organisation representing LGBT+ in a country where it
> would be illegal to do so. Obviously a government isn't going to allow an
> illegal entity to register. However, at ICANN, we are a lot more liberal
> than most governments. We should not always take for granted, that an
> illegal activity is not commendable activity or necessary dissidence. This
> consideration of extraordinary circumstances will always be done by the EC
> and will likely be very rarely used, if ever.
>
> -Raoul
>
> On Wed, 18 Sep 2019 at 20:37, Olivier Kouami <olivierkouami at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the clarification.
>>
>> Le mer. 18 sept. 2019 à 17:16, Remmy Nweke <remmyn at gmail.com> a écrit :
>>
>>> Hi Poncelet and all
>>> I raised my observation because I am aware it was discussed although I
>>> was skeptical about individual members in a body said to be representing
>>> corporate, hence I reminded us, so that it will not become contradictory
>>> contents, especially having been part of the review process and there is no
>>> plan to set us back but have a more clear and easy to understand charter
>>> devoid of ambiguity.
>>>
>>> For instance, this charter states inter alia:
>>>
>>> *3.1 Eligible Members*
>>> The Members of NPOC shall be comprised of not-for-profit organizations.
>>> NPOC requires member
>>> organizations to be a registered legal entity, unless, in exceptional
>>> circumstances,
>>> *the ExecutiveCommittee allows an unregistered entity to become a member
>>> on a case by case basis.*
>>>
>>> I will like to ask what the highlighted part meant before anyone is
>>> accused of allowing individual membership which for a simple understanding
>>> is an unregistered entity.
>>>
>>> Good evening from city of Lagos.
>>> Remmy
>>>
>>> On Fri, Sep 13, 2019, 12:07 PM Remmy Nweke <remmyn at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Hi Raoul
>>> > Nice to have this mission added.
>>> >
>>> > However, for a start, its solely about NGOs and since we have
>>> consideration for individual members I think such should reflect in the
>>> mission statement.
>>> > Regards for now
>>> > Remmy
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Fri, Sep 13, 2019, 9:24 AM Raoul Plommer <plommer at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> For some explicable reason, the 1.2., i.e. our mission was omitted
>>> from the draft. Here it is below. I've also added it to the working
>>> document of the charter.
>>> >>
>>> >> "1.2 NPOC’s mission is to represent Not-for-Profit Organizations by
>>> addressing their operational concerns with the generic Top-level Domains
>>> (gTLDs). Operational Concerns are defined as issues arising from the use of
>>> the gTLDs by the not-for-profit organizations to achieve their own mission.
>>> Those can include but are not limited to Domain Name Fraud, Intellectual
>>> Property Abuse, Privacy, Security, Stability, and Resiliency, as well as
>>> transparent registration and continued ownership of domain names."
>>> >>
>>> >> I went through the suggestions and there was nothing major, as far as
>>> I could see. I resolved the comments and if you're happy with the above
>>> mission statement as well, we can send the charter to its next phase of the
>>> review process. Enjoy your weekend!
>>> >>
>>> >> -Raoul
>>> >>
>>> >> On Fri, 30 Aug 2019 at 22:45, Olivier Kouami <olivierkouami at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Hello dearest.all.
>>> >>> Thanks you for the update Raoul.
>>> >>> I'll pass.through ans.seen.the.work done.since about 5 Yeats now.
>>> >>> You're welcome.
>>> >>> Regards.
>>> >>> Olévié
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Le ven. 30 août 2019 à 16:52, Remmy Nweke <remmyn at gmail.com> a
>>> écrit :
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Welcome to our team the journey so far on this improved charter.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> On Fri, Aug 30, 2019, 8:54 AM Raoul Plommer <plommer at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> Dear members of NPOC,
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> We have finished the work on our charter in July but I wanted to
>>> have one thorough look before sending it to you for accepting it. Sorry for
>>> taking so long in finally getting round to doing it.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> Here is the working version and with this link you can comment on
>>> it. After we've gone through all the comments of the members, we'll pass it
>>> to ICANN law for a review.
>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HRcUOxtoMUzJnfXhXm-wpJd3vDmVRG9uFTRyojOAbxo/edit?usp=sharing
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> The deadline for giving comments is 13th of September, which also
>>> happens to be Friday. :)
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> At the end of the charter, you can also find a link to the annex,
>>> but it's unfinished at the moment, and we still need to work on it before
>>> passing it for you to review.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> -Raoul
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> Ei viruksia. www.avast.com
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