[registrars] FW: RRAs

[Richard Lau]

I agree. Let's call it the "Enviromentally Friendly" Auto-renewal of the
New (ICANN approved) Agreement.

The EFAN Agreement for short.

;^)


On Thu, 4 Jan 2007 15:20:47 -0000, "Rob Hall" <rob at momentous.com> said:
> The interesting thing is, they really can't turn anyone off.
> 
> The old agreement says we automatically agree to any new one after 30
> days.  So in theory, we don't need to sign any new paper copy, and it
> automatically becomes the new agreement.  
> 
> So we are all assumed to have signed it after 30 days, and be bound by
> any new, approved agreement.
> 
> I would think Verisign would have a hard time arguing that they turned
> someone off, when there is the clause saying the new agreement is
> automatically put into place and in force.  The Registrar could argue
> that the new agreement was in place. 
> 
> Of course, the catch 22 for Verisign, is that it has to be an ICANN
> approved agreement. If they turn someone off for not signing, then they
> have the problem of having to argue that the agreement is indeed not
> approved.
> 
> I don't see how they could argue both sides (although lawyers have been
> able to do so in the past <grin>).  
> 
> I think we may go with just letting the old agreements clause on any new
> agreement taking effect automatically after 30 days.  Sure saves us a
> ton of paperwork and courier costs.  I can't see any reason to sign new
> paper agreement when clauses like that already exist in our existing
> agreements.
> 
> Rob.
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-registrars at gnso.icann.org
> [mailto:owner-registrars at gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Nevett, Jonathon
> Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 9:44 AM
> To: Robert F. Connelly; Registrars Constituency
> Subject: RE: [registrars] FW: RRAs
> 
> Adrian/Bob:  Thanks for your notes.  Much appreciated.  Hopefully, we
> will see some progress in the next couple of days.  The good news is
> that ICANN informed me last night that VeriSign has committed NOT to
> turn any registrars off while we work through this issue.  Thanks again.
> Jon
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-registrars at gnso.icann.org
> [mailto:owner-registrars at gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Robert F. Connelly
> Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 2:08 AM
> To: Registrars Constituency
> Subject: RE: [registrars] FW: RRAs
> 
> At 09:56 AM 1/4/2007 Thursday  +1100, Adrian Kinderis wrote:
> >Although we have made comment to Verisign on the matter, the fact that 
> >some of the "bigger" Registrars are prepared to speak out (when you
> have
> >the potentially the most to lose) is beneficial to the industry and to 
> >the constituency members as a whole.
> 
> Dear Jon: We share in Adrian's expression of appreciation for your
> efforts.  Regards, BobC
> 
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