[registrars] Q: are registrars allowed to deny transfers-out

[Richard Lau]

Dan,

If a domain has passed it's expiration, and is then sitting in the
auto-renewal period, the non-payment is for the current registration
period, not for a pending or future registratin period.

Had a nasty discussion with a non-US Registrar and the end user ended up
having to pay an large renewal fee ($35) to get the domains
renewed/unlocked. Then transferred the domains out. Since the
transfer-out occured within the 45 day renewal period, the Registry
refunded the auto-renewal to the Losing Registrar, who refused to credit
the end user back. So the end user paid for a renewal that they didn't
get.

There's an actual post on the ICANN site that talks about this related
issue of customers who pay for a Transfer after having paid for a
renewal during the auto-renewal period only getting 1 year after having
paid for 2.

Richard




On Wed, 17 Jan 2007 16:59:01 -0500 (EST), "Dan Wright"
<wright at smx.pair.com> said:
> 
> http://www.icann.org/transfers/policy-12jul04.htm
> 
> [Quote Section A.3]
> Instances when the requested change of Registrar may not be denied
> include, but
> are not limited to:
> 
>     * Nonpayment for a pending or future registration period
> 
>     [...]
> 
>     * Domain name registration period time constraints, other than during
>     the
> first 60 days of initial registration or during the first 60 days after a
> registrar transfer.
> [/Quote]
> 
> Seems to me that expired domains apply to one or both of those bullet
> points and
> should not be blocked.
> 
> 
> Daniel J. Wright                           wright at pair.com
> Lead Software Developer, pairNIC   https://www.pairnic.com
> pair Networks, Inc.                    http://www.pair.com
> 
> On Tue, 16 Jan 2007, Mark Jeftovic wrote:
> 
> > ...if the domain is in an expired state?
> >
> > I know we allow it, many others do, but under the new transfer policy
> > can a registrar use this as a valid reason to block a transfer out or
> > revoke access to the registrar-lock status?
> >
> > -mark
> >
> > --
> > Mark Jeftovic <markjr at easydns.com>
> > Founder & President, easyDNS Technologies Inc.
> > ph. +1-(416)-535-8672 ext 225
> > fx. +1-(866) 273-2892
> >