[RSSAC Caucus] Rogue Operator Work Party: what to include for "rogue"

Wessels, Duane dwessels at verisign.com
Mon Nov 2 21:38:05 UTC 2020



> On Nov 1, 2020, at 1:54 PM, Paul Muchene <Paul.Muchene at icann.org> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Paul,
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>> I don't think it makes sense to include all 11 principles (and examples) in the rogue document.  I think it would be hard to find good examples of going rogue for each of the 11 principles.
>> 
>> The real question is whether to include only the "obvious" ones which are objective and as you say are easily measured, or to also include some of the more subjective principles.  
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>> I lean towards omitting the subjective cases in this first revision, especially if no one is willing to contribute text for them.
> 
> Duane, 
> 
> Going by what you’ve stated, of the four principles outlined in the WP document only principles #2 and #6 will stand this test as they are deemed “obvious”/objective since they are measurable. Does this mean, principles #7 and #11 which are more subjective should be omitted? 
> 

I think the work party should have this discussion about whether or not to include subjective principles.

I also think it depends on who is the intended audience for this report.  If the report is just sort of "RSSAC thinking out loud" and describing what it means to be rogue, then in my opinion it is probably fine to include subjective aspects.  However, if this is intended to be advice to future root server governance bodies (e.g. the next phases of RSSAC037 & GWG work) then I think those bodies would have a very hard time acting on subjective aspects of rogueness.

DW

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