[Rt4-whois] Proposed Definition: "Consumer" [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

Nettlefold, Peter Peter.Nettlefold at dbcde.gov.au
Thu Mar 3 22:40:02 UTC 2011


Hi all,

Sorry for the slow reply, but I also think this is a good basis for our consultation.

I have two brief comments:


1.       I think we need an ‘or’ in the WHOIS consumer category list, rather than an ‘and’ (otherwise it would be a very high bar indeed to be considered to be a consumer).  I’ve made that change below in capitals so it stands out.



2.       I’m not sure what is meant by a ‘provider’. I note that this isn’t a category we’ve used in the ‘Producers and Maintainers’ definition that we’ve agreed to go forward with. So, is there an example of a ‘provider’ that is not captured under the ‘maintainer’ definition? If so, do we need to revisit our ‘Producers and Maintainers’ definition?

Also, and just for the future, I think it was Kathy (?) that noted on our call that one sleeper in this formulation is the word ‘legitimately’ (and the inherent reference to its converse: ‘illegitimate’). It will be interesting to see what the public comment returns on this, as this will be one (of the many) issues we will need to focus on in some detail going forward.

Cheers,

Peter

From: rt4-whois-bounces at icann.org [mailto:rt4-whois-bounces at icann.org] On Behalf Of lynn at goodsecurityconsulting.com
Sent: Thursday, 3 March 2011 3:10 AM
To: Dr. Sarmad Hussain
Cc: 'RT4 WHOIS'
Subject: Re: [Rt4-whois] Proposed Definition: "Consumer"

Thank you Dr. Sarmad!  I like this last edited draft and would be happy to have this published for public comment.
Lynn
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Subject: Re: [Rt4-whois] Proposed Definition: "Consumer"
From: "Dr. Sarmad Hussain" <sarmad at cantab.net<mailto:sarmad at cantab.net>>
Date: Wed, March 02, 2011 4:55 am
To: "'James M. Bladel'" <jbladel at godaddy.com<mailto:jbladel at godaddy.com>>, "'RT4 WHOIS'"
<rt4-whois at icann.org<mailto:rt4-whois at icann.org>>
Ok, though with minor wording adjustments; see below.



From: rt4-whois-bounces at icann.org<mailto:rt4-whois-bounces at icann.org> [mailto:rt4-whois-bounces at icann.org] On Behalf Of James M. Bladel
Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 12:21 PM
To: RT4 WHOIS
Subject: [Rt4-whois] Proposed Definition: "Consumer"

Team:

As discussed during our call, here is the proposed bifurcated definition of "consumer" for inclusion in our call for comments. It has been chopped up a bit for readability, but I did endeavor to preserve the overall meaning.

I've also modified the "Feedback Requested" to be more open ended.

Thoughts / feeedback?  I'm off to bed now, but will check back in a few hours.

Thanks--

J.
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In the global sense, "consumer" may mean:
 * All Internet users including natural persons, commercial and non-commercial entities, government and academic entities,





And specifically within the context of this review, a "consumer" w.r.t. WHOIS data and Whois Service may mean:


* Any consumer that acts as a  Producer of WHOIS data  (see above), Maintainer of WHOIS data and Provider of Whois Service (e.g. Registrars), OR User of WHOIS data (e.g.    individuals, commercial or non-commercial entities who legitimately query the WHOIS data.).



Feedback request from community

Community feedback is desired on the WHOIS Review Team's approach to this definition.  Is it too broad or too restrictive?  In either case, how should it be changed.



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