[Rt4-whois] Proposed Definition: "Consumer" [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

Fri Mar 4 07:29:29 UTC 2011

Hi Peter 

I had just signed off the call to public comment last night my time!  However, if it has not already been published, Alice, please would you amend according to the tracked changes document attached.  Peter - good comments, thank you.  I think we can take in your comment about provider by decapitalising it, so that it's not a defined term, but describes an action, ie providing a WHOIS service.

E

On 3 Mar 2011, at 22:40, Nettlefold, Peter wrote:

> Hi all,
>  
> Sorry for the slow reply, but I also think this is a good basis for our consultation.
>  
> I have two brief comments:
>  
> 1.       I think we need an ‘or’ in the WHOIS consumer category list, rather than an ‘and’ (otherwise it would be a very high bar indeed to be considered to be a consumer).  I’ve made that change below in capitals so it stands out.
>  
> 2.       I’m not sure what is meant by a ‘provider’. I note that this isn’t a category we’ve used in the ‘Producers and Maintainers’ definition that we’ve agreed to go forward with. So, is there an example of a ‘provider’ that is not captured under the ‘maintainer’ definition? If so, do we need to revisit our ‘Producers and Maintainers’ definition?
>  
> Also, and just for the future, I think it was Kathy (?) that noted on our call that one sleeper in this formulation is the word ‘legitimately’ (and the inherent reference to its converse: ‘illegitimate’). It will be interesting to see what the public comment returns on this, as this will be one (of the many) issues we will need to focus on in some detail going forward.
>  
> Cheers,
>  
> Peter
>  
> From: rt4-whois-bounces at icann.org [mailto:rt4-whois-bounces at icann.org] On Behalf Oflynn at goodsecurityconsulting.com
> Sent: Thursday, 3 March 2011 3:10 AM
> To: Dr. Sarmad Hussain
> Cc: 'RT4 WHOIS'
> Subject: Re: [Rt4-whois] Proposed Definition: "Consumer"
>  
> Thank you Dr. Sarmad!  I like this last edited draft and would be happy to have this published for public comment.
> Lynn
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: [Rt4-whois] Proposed Definition: "Consumer"
> From: "Dr. Sarmad Hussain" <sarmad at cantab.net>
> Date: Wed, March 02, 2011 4:55 am
> To: "'James M. Bladel'" <jbladel at godaddy.com>, "'RT4 WHOIS'"
> <rt4-whois at icann.org>
> 
> Ok, though with minor wording adjustments; see below.
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>  
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> From: rt4-whois-bounces at icann.org [mailto:rt4-whois-bounces at icann.org] On Behalf OfJames M. Bladel
> Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 12:21 PM
> To: RT4 WHOIS
> Subject: [Rt4-whois] Proposed Definition: "Consumer"
>  
> Team:
>  
> As discussed during our call, here is the proposed bifurcated definition of "consumer" for inclusion in our call for comments. It has been chopped up a bit for readability, but I did endeavor to preserve the overall meaning.
>  
> I've also modified the "Feedback Requested" to be more open ended.
>  
> Thoughts / feeedback?  I'm off to bed now, but will check back in a few hours.
>  
> Thanks--
>  
> J.
> _________________________________
> In the global sense, "consumer" may mean:
>  * All Internet users including natural persons, commercial and non-commercial entities, government and academic entities,
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> And specifically within the context of this review, a "consumer" w.r.t. WHOIS data and Whois Service maymean:
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> * Any consumer that acts as a  Producer of WHOIS data  (see above), Maintainer of WHOIS data and Provider of Whois Service (e.g. Registrars), OR User of WHOIS data(e.g.    individuals, commercial or non-commercial entities who legitimately query the WHOIS data.).
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> Feedback request from community
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> Community feedback is desired on the WHOIS Review Team's approach to this definition.  Is it too broad or too restrictive?  In either case, how should it be changed.
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